in light of all the payment raging, (( must read ))

[malf]

To those wanabee smart like korpg rosina, ilax, please stop trying to convince your point of view is the best and ppl saying they'll quit are simply whinner who should have whatever quit.

My playtime : 1052 days. Started playing august 2007. 11 jobs (8 leveled up before abyssea exists, 1051 merits points). I'm not an hardcore gamer living for ffxi, but only a player who spent days behind ffxi doing nothing, bazaaring, questing, farming, skilling up, doing HLS event, exping.

I'm not addicted as you spending hours to try to give money to SE. If I can't pay easily, I guess I will play now as I'm playing eve online buying credit on demand = nearly never. Because making the choice to pay , and doing almost nothing productive in ffxi, will give me the opportunity to try to do something else more productive.

btw i will not answer to flame discussion about my point of view with narrow minded I want always to have the last word, will not take time for this. You even didn't understand that living with other people means other people CAN have a different point of view, and it's a basic well known rule.

[Hoshi]

So what's up with the first thread showing how much people dislike this new system being deleted? Looks like a thread about paypal is gone too. If SE thinks deleting threads where players are unhappy is going to make the unhappiness go away they've got another thing coming.

[Kraggy]

So what's up with the first thread showing how much people dislike this new system being deleted? Looks like a thread about paypal is gone too. If SE thinks deleting threads where players are unhappy is going to make the unhappiness go away they've got another thing coming.

You mean THIS ONE? http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...116-Add-paypal which currently is alive and well on page one of the forum index?

[MarkovChain]

To those wanabee smart like korpg rosina, ilax, please stop trying to convince your point of view is the best and ppl saying they'll quit are simply whinner who should have whatever quit.

They are.

My playtime : 1052 days. Started playing august 2007. 11 jobs (8 leveled up before abyssea exists, 1051 merits points). I'm not an hardcore gamer living for ffxi, but only a player who spent days behind ffxi doing nothing, bazaaring, questing, farming, skilling up, doing HLS event, exping.

You are hardcore. You are tired of the game (look at your playtime). So you quit. Why would you get mad over changing a paiement methods (that takes roughly 5 minutes) otherwise ¿

[Aver]

They are.



You are hardcore. You are tired of the game (look at your playtime). So you quit. Why would you get mad over changing a paiement methods (that takes roughly 5 minutes) otherwise ¿

You have absolutely no idea what's going on in these threads do you? Have you no reading comprehension?

It's not the payment change. It's the payment OPTIONS. Neither of them are good, nor are they what we want. How is it that every other MMO company has direct billing but square just has to be different and throw us through a third party, all the while leaving its JP members the ability to pay pretty much however they want?

It's terrible business. You'd do well to remember that.

[Kraggy]

Neither of them are good

UltimatePay works fine for me thanks.

[Aver]

UltimatePay works fine for me thanks.

Congratulations! The rest of us who'd rather not go through a third party and instead pay square directly (with automated billing, no less!) will be over here. ->

(Because regardless of what you think you're doing, you're still going through a third party, and you're still adding extra steps to the process. Kudos to you for wanting to deal with it. I don't.)

What is actually is everyone's problem with Click and Buy? It seems like a generic paypal clone to me -- SE trusts them because they are already endorsed by a large number of top end businesses. They can't be *that* "shady" or else there would be a much, much larger outcry about them across the board.

Not saying they don't suck, just saying they can't be nearly as bad as everyone's making them out to be without getting any kind of negative articles out of a google search.

Banks are blocking CnB. That alone should be enough. My bank (NFCU) sent me a letter of "suspicious activity" that I had to call and clear up. Chase outright blocks it and you have to pull teeth to get it taken care of.

I doubt this is something they'd do lightly/without reason, and that alone is enough for me.

[Horadrim]

Congratulations! The rest of us who'd rather not go through a third party and instead pay square directly (with automated billing, no less!) will be over here. ->

(Because regardless of what you think you're doing, you're still going through a third party, and you're still adding extra steps to the process. Kudos to you for wanting to deal with it. I don't.)




Banks are blocking CnB. That alone should be enough. My bank (NFCU) sent me a letter of "suspicious activity" that I had to call and clear up. Chase outright blocks it and you have to pull teeth to get it taken care of.

I doubt this is something they'd do lightly/without reason, and that alone is enough for me.

Haven't been dealing with chase very long, have you?

The reason they block it is probably because its a random charge from a foreign country, the likes of which makes them question the validity of the charges. That aside, I've had similar problems with even domestic charges before -- when I first got my new car I had trouble getting my payments through.

I understand the problem now, though, just saying again that its not just CnB.

Weird, though, I never had any problem signing up with CnB for FFXIV -- they did do that verification payment (the little 1 dollar thing) to make sure it'd go through and I never had an issue. I guess since we haven't paid for the monthly sub I can't be overzealous about that working, though.

According to some posts on Alla it seems some banks either won't allow you to use C&B while others warn customers they're 'shady' .. whether you believe those people posting that is another matter .. and links to web sites listing problems with C&B have also been posted.

They're also rated F at BBB apparently. Plenty of posts around describing problems people have had in other MMO forums too, such as Lord of The Rings: Online, Turbine have been dealing with C&B for some time now.

Banks generally don't like random charges from mildly obscure companies from other countries. That's sort of why Paypal came into existence to begin with, isn't it?

There's another option, right? What exactly's wrong with Crysta? In ability to pay specific amounts? What are the amounts you're limited to?

[mistmonster]

Haven't been dealing with chase very long, have you?

The reason they block it is probably because its a random charge from a foreign country, the likes of which makes them question the validity of the charges. That aside, I've had similar problems with even domestic charges before -- when I first got my new car I had trouble getting my payments through.

I have been a Chase card holder for many years. I'm will cut and paste my story again (starting to feel like a broken record)

Ok when 14 came out I knew nothing about click and buy. So I set it up. They did a temp charge to my cc to make sure is was valid (this is normal) and before I was barely through the paper work I had an automated call asking if I authorized the change and I said I did. Not an hour later a person from Chase called me and asked literally "do you know what you are getting into?" They said they would freeze my account every time click and buy charged it. so pretty much my bank of choice doesn't like them. I'm not the only person reporting this either. Apparently AMEX does the same thing.

So a rep from Chase who may or may not have know what I was actually trying to do with click and buy told me not to use it.. That's enough for me