in light of all the payment raging, (( must read ))

[Romanova]

I wasn't given the option to switch over my account info until the 27th of July. And I had to reissue my information earlier this month because my old card expires at the end of this month.

As far as I know, only the 3D secure was in effect. Give me information as to state that this new system that we are on has been in effect for the past year, and I shall retract my statement. Because I have been paying from PoL since I first started this game.

It is the only way you could pay for 14, it existed initially for 14 and they already stated back then that there were plans to move 11 to it as they wanted to keep both games on the same system to make it "easier" to handle payments since there was (still is? not sure now that things have changed) supposed to be a discount to the monthly fees if you had both games on the same SE account.

There are tons of people out there (myself included) that are about to get at least 1 month of not having to pay for ff11 because when we all got the CE edition of ff14 we expected to pay for it and already went through this awful system to set it up for 14.

I had a balance of 3k crysta in my bank because I expected to play 14 for at least 2 months. If I hadn't gone back to ffxi those would have expired next year.


Now before you try to twist things, I never said this system was in effect for ffxi. but it has been in effect for over a year and with plans for over a year for ffxi to switch. So if you want to make guesses as to why they made it you have to think about SE's state of almost two years ago (they didn't plan this in a day, it was supposed to be the major new "cool" POL system for ff14, it wasn't a rushed job). While it was already completed and running a year ago, you have to go even further back to when they initially thought of it in the first place.

I'd like to point out too the system is set up the exact same way as it was back a year ago, absolutely nothing has changed since then.

Why did they decide to switch now? my guess is they are planning fairly soon after the next major patch or two in 14 to turn it into p2p and they wanted them both on the same system before then since that was their initial intent.

[Korpg]

It is the only way you could pay for 14, it existed initially for 14 and they already stated back then that there were plans to move 11 to it as they wanted to keep both games on the same system to make it "easier" to handle payments since there was (still is? not sure now that things have changed) supposed to be a discount to the monthly fees if you had both games on the same SE account.

There are tons of people out there (myself included) that are about to get at least 1 month of not having to pay for ff11 because when we all got the CE edition of ff14 we expected to pay for it and already went through this awful system to set it up for 14.

I had a balance of 3k crysta in my bank because I expected to play 14 for at least 2 months. If I hadn't gone back to ffxi those would have expired next year.


Now before you try to twist things, I never said this system was in effect for ffxi. but it has been in effect for over a year and with plans for over a year for ffxi to switch. So if you want to make guesses as to why they made it you have to think about SE's state of almost two years ago (they didn't plan this in a day, it was supposed to be the major new "cool" POL system for ff14, it wasn't a rushed job). While it was already completed and running a year ago, you have to go even further back to when they initially thought of it in the first place.

I'd like to point out too the system is set up the exact same way as it was back a year ago, absolutely nothing has changed since then.

Why did they decide to switch now? my guess is they are planning fairly soon after the next major patch or two in 14 to turn it into p2p and they wanted them both on the same system before then since that was their initial intent.

Then why are you complaining, you already have your account setup, all you have to do is transfer the information from PoL to your SE account.

As for me, it was a simple process to transfer my information from one source to another, and I can make monthly payments without any hassle. You can too, if you aren't in the Click and Buy's list of countries they don't support.

And if you don't trust Click and Buy? There is an optional step you can take to safeguard your money.

[Romanova]

Then why are you complaining, you already have your account setup, all you have to do is transfer the information from PoL to your SE account.

reading is hard (maybe you can figure it out)

I had a balance of 3k crysta in my bank because I expected to play 14 for at least 2 months. If I hadn't gone back to ffxi those would have expired next year.

I don't like the crysta system at all, and C&B already tried to take extra money from me back during the 14 fiasco. Chase blocks all transactions from them thank god, but I had to fight with C&B to reverse my money.


[edit] to further clarify, I would have no issues if 1. crysta never expired, 2, I could buy crysta in any amount I wanted, 3. I could set it up where they could automate the crysta payments via paypal.

[Korpg]

I don't like the crysta system at all, and C&B already tried to take extra money from me back during the 14 fiasco. Chase blocks all transactions from them thank god, but I had to fight with C&B to reverse my money.

Sounds like a FFXIV problem to me, and a billing issue with Click and Buy, which you should have talked to either that company or Square Enix about it. Fighting with them, I don't believe. More like one side was too mad to keep their emotions in check.

[Romanova]

Sounds like a FFXIV problem to me, and a billing issue with Click and Buy, which you should have talked to either that company or Square Enix about it. Fighting with them, I don't believe. More like one side was too mad to keep their emotions in check.

no it was strictly through CnB. 14 had nothing to do with it, from what I can tell their "authorization" got stuck in a loop, it started spamming my CC with those random $1-2 amounts, and Chase got flagged/blocked it after the 5th or 6th time (I forget which since it was a year ago). I had to call Chase first since CnB's customer service was in Euro time so it wasn't open. Chase told me that CnB is a red flagged company to them and that Chase tries to block any transaction coming from them. I called C&B the next day and had to argue with them to get me 5-6 funds reversed and to have my account cancelled through them.


Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. No way am I going through that again. Nor do I want to go to another bank outside of Chase atm who tries to stop CnB transactions anyways.

[Korpg]

no it was strictly through CnB. 14 had nothing to do with it, from what I can tell their "authorization" got stuck in a loop, it started spamming my CC with those random $1-2 amounts, and Chase got flagged/blocked it after the 5th or 6th time (I forget which since it was a year ago). I had to call Chase first since CnB's customer service was in Euro time so it wasn't open. Chase told me that CnB is a red flagged company to them and that Chase tries to block any transaction coming from them. I called C&B the next day and had to argue with them to get me 5-6 funds reversed and to have my account cancelled through them.


Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. No way am I going through that again. Nor do I want to go to another bank outside of Chase atm who tries to stop CnB transactions anyways.

Sounds like an error to me, not malicious intent.

Chase has probably flagged Click and Buy because people use that company to filter in scams. It is not saying that the company is bad, it is saying that some people who use the product is bad. Are you going to blame Microsoft for somebody hacking into your computer?

[Romanova]

Sounds like an error to me, not malicious intent.

Chase has probably flagged Click and Buy because people use that company to filter in scams. It is not saying that the company is bad, it is saying that some people who use the product is bad. Are you going to blame Microsoft for somebody hacking into your computer?

I never said it was malicious intent, it is however a failed company as I have heard several others get into the same situation.

Also, stop trying to justify them, I don't trust them. You want to trust them? fine, go for it, but don't come down on others for not trusting them. Chase told me they will keep blocking it which means I couldn't use my chase card for CnB and that's the card I want to use (for two reasons 1. I have always trusted chase against fraud, 2. it's my reward card and I put all small purchases on it to gain points), so I do it through paypal instead because I can as crysta is the lesser of two evils. I think it's silly you think it's ok to tell people how to govern their money.


[edit] I also noticed how you claimed you'd retract your statement about the "new" system, even though you were, in fact, wrong about this being really new but never actually admitted to being wrong. gg