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    Quote Originally Posted by xbobx View Post
    Principles matter even if it is a small cost, don't you agree?
    This is my exact view on the situation. This is also why i'll be quitting (sadly) at the end of August. I don't let any company push me around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbobx View Post
    Korpg when the fix is very easy and they don't do the fix that is the real issue. I don't mind buying crysta, I also don't mind paying over, but there is no reason for paying over. It maybe a dollar here and there but at some point you have to put your foot down. Principles matter even if it is a small cost, don't you agree?

    I see a lot of people complaining about things in the wrong way. The problem is simple, the fix is simple, so just fix it.
    There must be a reason why they are doing this payment plan this way. It might be to save money, it might be to simplify both games's payment plans, we just don't know. But it is going to happen, regardless of anything we can do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAIST View Post
    Guess you haven't been reading my posts in all the other threads you've posted in. what I want is regional equality--for them to extend the direct pay method to the rest of us just like they've done for the JP region.

    And the debate you jumped into here with me was over the comparison between (imagine this) the DIRECT PAY option VS CRYSTA as it currently stands--trying to show how the DIRECT PAY option is the better option, and how there is no justification for it being denied to 2/3 of the players (regionally speaking).
    You are asking for regional equality from a culture notorious for their racism? Good luck with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azagthoth View Post
    Quite simply, SE could remedy the situation if they continued to offer a direct payment option for 3-D secure cards and offered the other payment options for people without the proper cards; I thought this was their original intent when I first read about the transfer process.
    you're not alone... I think most everyone got mislead, hence the outcry over it only being extended to the JP region.
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    This whole problem seems like it would be resolved if SE reduced the monthly cost down to 9.99... Then you could just buy 10 bucks worth of Crysta and be done with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    You are asking for regional equality from a culture notorious for their racism? Good luck with that.
    SE has always professed to strive for regional and platform balance and their skew toward the JP region has been more cleverly masked in the past... but this is just right out there slapping everyone in the face and pissing on open wounds.
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    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...l=1#post158090

    Greetings all,

    We wanted to take a moment to let you know that we are aware of the comments and discussions taking place regarding the new payment procedures not only on the official forum, but on the community sites, as well.

    While we don't have specific details to share at this time, we do want to inform you that improving the payment processing options are still a part of an ongoing process. We will continue to take all the feedback we receive as we strive to make the experience as user-friendly as possible for all of our customers going forward.

    so.....I guess all this "rage" has gotten their attention after all, eh?

    And now.... we wait. Will they get a fix in place before the exodus?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    There must be a reason why they are doing this payment plan this way. It might be to save money, it might be to simplify both games's payment plans, we just don't know. But it is going to happen, regardless of anything we can do.
    I honestly think it is a move towards micro-transactions and ff14 going free to play format with purchasable items. That could carry over. For a dieing game it could help bring more revenue in then just counting on sub fees. It also allows new players to come in , buy some items to help get them a head and up to 90 fast so they can take part with everyone else. Who knows.
    No matter what the reason, the fix is easy with little cost considering they may lose money on this move as it is. Any management team with any brains would just tell their IT dept to make the change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAIST View Post
    SE has always professed to strive for regional and platform balance and their skew toward the JP region has been more cleverly masked in the past... but this is just right out there slapping everyone in the face and pissing on open wounds.
    If you feel that way, and I mean honestly feel that way, then I'm sorry for you.

    I think that they allow 3D Secure payments for their JP customers is because that is a payment system they are most familiar with. It could also be the one that they get for free, because you think that the 3D Secure system is free to companies? SE already is part of a major corporation in JP, and most, if not all corporations have banks, so they can bypass the 3D secure fee from their bank (charging yourself is silly). Why pass up a free service?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAIST View Post
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...l=1#post158090
    so.....I guess all this "rage" has gotten their attention after all, eh?

    And now.... we wait. Will they get a fix in place before the exodus?
    Squeeky wheel gets the grease.
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