in light of all the payment raging, (( must read ))

[Romanova]

Rosina continues to prove they are the real child here lol....

[Korpg]

Carries over, but expires after 2 years. Iirc, the cap you can add per month is $100 worth of Crysta (10000 Crysta).

Regardless, if 1 Cent = 1 Crysta (it does), then there's no real reason why they can't let us buy 1295 Crysta for $12.95 and just pay exactly. Shoddy implementation. They have one month to get it right.

You are correct, the crysta system needs to be fixed.

[RAIST]

/facepalm

why do i bother trying to talk to children.

raist fyi, i was converting accounts fees into crysta.

tbh i honestly do not care anymore rage on, nothing will come of it.

ffxiv player base already pulled this crap. SE not gonna budge.

deal with it or quit. Just stop insulting me over your petty childish ways. Grow a set and be done with it.

And where was I not converting account fees to crysta? you can only buy crysta in $5 amounts.... maybe you need some sort of visual so you can see it, because the math is confusing you?

Cumulative Direct Pay $ spent per cycle: 12.95 $25.90 $38.85 $51.80 $64.75 $77.70
Cumulative $ spent on Crysta per cycle : 15.00 $30.00 $40.00 $55.00 $65.00 $80.00

This continues to be out of whack until the 100th billing cycle.

Again... I ask.. which line is costing you more money up front per billing cycle?

Now, whatch how bad it gets if I buy game cards across the street because of the 6% tax:

Cumulative $ spent on Crysta per cycle: 15.90 31.40 42.00 57.90 68.50 84.40

After just 6 cycles, that's $84.40 vs 77.70. At that rate, after 100 cycles, using locally bought game cards would have cost me 1372.20 instead of 1295.00.

Again.... which method is costing me more money along the way? Which method would the average consumer prefer to optimize their debt/income ratio? THE OPTION THAT JUST GOT GANKED FROM 2/3 OF US!

[RAIST]

Sorry, I was trying to be sarcastic to RAIST. Unintended victim for the sarcasm.

never claimed the crysta didn't carry over. note that I was calculating cumulative crysta in the minumum $5 amounts you can purchase.

[Korpg]

And where was I not converting account fees to crysta? you can only buy crysta in $5 amounts.... maybe you need some sort of visual so you can see it, because the math is confusing you?

Cumulative Direct Pay $ spent per cycle: 12.95 $25.90 $38.85 $51.80 $64.75 $77.70
Cumulative $ spent on Crysta per cycle : 15.00 $30.00 $40.00 $55.00 $65.00 $80.00

This continues to be out of whack until the 100th billing cycle.

Again... I ask.. which line is costing you more money up front per billing cycle?

Now, whatch how bad it gets if I buy game cards across the street because of the 6% tax:

Cumulative $ spent on Crysta per cycle: 15.90 31.40 42.00 57.90 68.50 84.40

After just 6 cycles, that's $84.40 vs 77.70. At that rate, after 100 cycles, using locally bought game cards would have cost me 1372.20 instead of 1295.00.

Again.... which method is costing me more money along the way? Which method would the average consumer prefer to optimize their debt/income ratio? THE OPTION THAT JUST GOT GANKED FROM 2/3 OF US!

Here you go, something just for you

[RAIST]

That is pointless

show me where the math is wrong.

Show me how they cannot process direct payments like they've been doing.

All the pieces are in place within their business structure. If not...they would not have been taking payments through POL, and they would have to shut down their online store's credit card option for all but the JP region as well....which they have NOT done. As I've stated before, I used to set this crap up for companies on a previous job. The majority of what they are doing for the JP pages can be moved over to the other regional pages, and the rest of the code is provided by the vendors they already have contracts with for processing credit cards in the other regions.

They CAN do it. They are simply choosing not to.

[Korpg]

That is pointless

show me where the math is wrong.

Show me how they cannot process direct payments like they've been doing.

All the pieces are in place within their business structure. If not...they would not have been taking payments through POL, and they would have to shut down their online store's credit card option for all but the JP region as well....which they have NOT done. As I've stated before, I used to set this crap up for companies on a previous job. The majority of what they are doing for the JP pages can be moved over to the other regional pages, and the rest of the code is provided by the vendors they already have contracts with for processing credit cards in the other regions.

They CAN do it. They are simply choosing not to.

I can not justify why they are doing this, I don't know why you expect me to do so. They are doing this, and you want a method of paying for a subscription without any extra fees or holding over crysta each month. I gave you that, and you still want something else. Is there no pleasing you?

Also, I never said anything about your math being wrong.

[Azagthoth]

Quite simply, SE could remedy the situation if they continued to offer a direct payment option for 3-D secure cards and offered the other payment options for people without the proper cards; I thought this was their original intent when I first read about the transfer process.

[xbobx]

Korpg when the fix is very easy and they don't do the fix that is the real issue. I don't mind buying crysta, I also don't mind paying over, but there is no reason for paying over. It maybe a dollar here and there but at some point you have to put your foot down. Principles matter even if it is a small cost, don't you agree?

I see a lot of people complaining about things in the wrong way. The problem is simple, the fix is simple, so just fix it.

[RAIST]

I can not justify why they are doing this, I don't know why you expect me to do so. They are doing this, and you want a method of paying for a subscription without any extra fees or holding over crysta each month. I gave you that, and you still want something else. Is there no pleasing you?

Also, I never said anything about your math being wrong.

Guess you haven't been reading my posts in all the other threads you've posted in. what I want is regional equality--for them to extend the direct pay method to the rest of us just like they've done for the JP region.

And the debate you jumped into here with me was over the comparison between (imagine this) the DIRECT PAY option VS CRYSTA as it currently stands--trying to show how the DIRECT PAY option is the better option, and how there is no justification for it being denied to 2/3 of the players (regionally speaking).