in light of all the payment raging, (( must read ))

[Romanova]

Once you start acting like a child, your opinion is worth less then the money you pay for to use the internent.

So...you're saying your opinion is worthless? Gotcha. You've acted like a bigger child (and type like one) than those you are accusing.


Not all of us are so stuck on FFXI that we have played for 8 years straight. I was going to take a break for KoTOR, probably go back to WoW after that, etc. Sooner or later I will probably go back to FFXI, but that could be two years from now when my crysta would have expired. It is not the first time I've taken over a two year break from FFXI, it is not out of the realm of impossibility.

Being forced to play just so I can "even out" is ridiculous. You think that because there's a solution, there's no reason to complain. I say, just because there is a solution, doesn't make that solution a good one by far and people have every right to ask for a better one.

[Rosina]

It actually does kind of suck to have extra Crysta when the only thing we Americans can spend Crysta on is Final Fantasy XI. It's like buying a gift-card for 20 bucks, but only using $18 of that money at the check-out counter and being told that you won't be given the remaining $2. Sure, you can save it for the next time, but it's not going to help. You're still going to have to buy another $20 gift card, and then that month you'll instead have $4 left over. You won't be able to actually spend that built-up remaining money until months later.

actually ffxi ffxiv and adding characters to your account can be bought with crysta.

[Ryaan]

Also another note real quick, how would i not be over paying each month. 12.95 + 3 mules = 15.95

I would have to buy 20$ worth of crysta to be able to play. Now in accounting that would be a surplus of $4.05 paid to the company for the crysta that month. Which according to my books is over paying. Now later down the road that over pay MAY actually fully balance out to ONE month of me not over paying but no matter how you look at it you have to over pay every month to get that one month of NOT overpaying. I personally dont like to have the extra laying around. What if for some odd reason I have to quit next month cause i cant afford to keep doing it for one reason or another. Now thats an extra 4$ now sitting in my account I can't do anything with. To me that is waste and with the economy how it is right now in the states that waste is NOT a good thing for me. Not all of us are as fortunte to be able to just write off 2-4 extra dollars each month to this game. If you can than congrats to you but some of us have other things we need to be able to take care of as well.

[Rosina]

So...you're saying your opinion is worthless? Gotcha. You've acted like a bigger child (and type like one) than those you are accusing.


Not all of us are so stuck on FFXI that we have played for 8 years straight. I was going to take a break for KoTOR, probably go back to WoW after that, etc. Sooner or later I will probably go back to FFXI, but that could be two years from now when my crysta would have expired. It is not the first time I've taken over a two year break from FFXI, it is not out of the realm of impossibility.

Being forced to play just so I can "even out" is ridiculous. You think that because there's a solution, there's no reason to complain. I say, just because there is a solution, doesn't make that solution a good one by far and people have every right to ask for a better one.

sorry but I haven't played this game 8 year straight. And i have yet to actually insult anyone. If anything I stated that i dislike the current attitude of the forum

[RAIST]

Rosina....all of this has already been covered and you have been proven WRONG before you posted your misinformed opinions, both in this thread and others YOU have posted the same misinformation in. Please, for the love of <insert your chosen deity>, READ the freaking information that is out their first.

Here's a perfect example:

You are not gonna over pay by using crysta. Trust me. I used similar systems befor. Such as 360 microsoft points and i Played mabinogi which uses points. Pretty much you bank points up. with acess. And can use that to pay for your account. Or make adding crysta cheaper for a bit till you run out of banked cysta.

like say your account is just 1 character. That is 12.95. you would round it up to $13. then see what is a decent amount. and you decide on the $30 so you have a few mnths. that is 3000 crysta.
your account isonly 1300 cysta.
1300 x 2 = 2600 -3000 = 400
after said 2 mnths you can justbuy a $10 card for 1000 crysta and still have 100 crysta left over. which you can use to add another character if you wanted to. which then would yup your account to 14.00= 1400 cysta.

It isn't bad having extra crysta

I have already broken this down for you before. It takes $1295 USD worth of crysta for it to balance out 100% for a single account with no mules. That is $12.95 USD x 100 biling cycles... 98.6 months, or 8.2 years. If you are using crysta just for FFXI swubscription, you would have to play for at least 8 years before you saw any chance of balancing the cost of adding crysta in comparison to the direct billing option--which by the way is the root of all this discourse, and SE has arbitrarily yanked from 2/3 of it's playerbase (regionally speaking, that is).

Let's also not forget that if you have to resort to buying the cards locally for some reason, you are hit with local taxation and the potentially cost of travelling to get them, or in the worst case scenario you have to order them and pay shipping, and the additional interest you may be charged if you buy them in bulk on a credit it card. All thiss adds up to one simple fact...UNTIL YOU SPEND ENOUGH CRYSTA TO BALANCE OUT YOUR SUBSCRIPTION COSTS 100%, YOU ARE SPENDING MORE $$ PER UNIT OF PLAYTIME WITH CRYSTA VERSUS A DIRECT BILLING OPTION (WHICH, AGAIN HAS BEEN YANKED FROM 2/3 THE REGIONS)

And... here is another reason NOT to use C&B. A snag posted on another forum. Catwho, a US player (1 state away from me, and uses the same bank I do) used C&B and got slapped with a fee from his bank because the new payment method is no longer using a US based bank and is being FORCED to go through an international vendor now:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.htm...3&h=50&p=5#219

Well, just hit my first snag. My bank charged me an extra 60 cents for buying $20 worth of Crysta via Click and Buy, calling it an international transaction. I had no warning from Click and Buy or from SE that there would be the extra charge.

[Knives]

actually ffxi ffxiv and adding characters to your account can be bought with crysta.

FFXIV still doesn't charge and adding characters to an account is something I intended to already be linked to FFXI in the first place. Not everyone has only one character- plenty have mules. That doesn't change things. This is just arguing semantics. In the end, Crysta is currently a dead-end "currency" being pushed upon American audiences. Being able to buy as much as the customer wants would solve this issue.

Even Xbox Live attempted to change their own point system to try and accommodate the customers in a better way, though it took them years. The point is still the same though- the customers like to be able to control just how many points they are buying, for fear of winding up with waste.

[Rosina]

ok ryanan you are simply not understandthing how crysta is. I can understand the confusion. here is a simple explination cystsa does not calulate in cents.
it is $1 for every 100 crysta. which is why even online you need to pay in dollor amounts. crysta is good for 2 years. can is used to not only pay for accounts but to buy extra characters.

I used to work (currently not working) 4 hours a week, getting around $30-$40 a pay check. Which is why I wanna use crysta, it is easyer for me to just put in enough crysta for a while just in case i may lose my job or do not work one week.

[Rosina]

raist have you ever used a point system befoire to pay for an mmo? if not. then you can't say i'm wrong. I'm not new to point system dude so really lay off.

[Tamoa]

ok ryanan you are simply not understandthing how crysta is. I can understand the confusion. here is a simple explination cystsa does not calulate in cents.
it is $1 for every 100 crysta. which is why even online you need to pay in dollor amounts. crysta is good for 2 years. can is used to not only pay for accounts but to buy extra characters.

I used to work (currently not working) 4 hours a week, getting around $30-$40 a pay check. Which is why I wanna use crysta, it is easyer for me to just put in enough crysta for a while just in case i may lose my job or do not work one week.

Bolded part confirming my thoughts.

[Romanova]

And i have yet to actually insult anyone.

That's not the only way to "act like a child"...

You have insanely bad and "childlike" behavior. Simply put, don't dish out and attack people for not reading, when you can't handle people attacking you when you get called out.

And again, who cares if you can ultimately balance it out, it is not a good solution. We want better. As others said this economy it terrible atm, if you think its wise to just waste money even if you currently can afford to do so, then you really are a child who doesn't know how the real world works.