in light of all the payment raging, (( must read ))

[Malamasala]

can a mod please look into who setting the tags to insult me? it is getting annoying to have to change them

Why do you bother? Tags are there so you can search the forum. And I think only the people who put the tags there would be likely to search for them (so they can see who to pester more).

I'd only be worried if someone was actually deleting tags that were on topic. Since it would make it harder for SE to find it.

[Puck]

Nail on the freakin' head, Selzak.

[Dauntless]

Everyone here is upset about these payment options, and you're like some 16 yr old sitting here with your daddy's credit card in hand telling us that we're over reacting and don't know what we're talking about. It's just ridiculous.

Whoaaa slow down, I'm 16 and I'm raging because I'm not paying for my own account and I don't want the person paying for me to have to jump through all these hoops to pay for a game. Not everyone is daddy's little spoiled brat.

[Korpg]

Would like to say something once more to those who are not against this change and are filling up every thread about it with arguments. (Looking at you, Rosina and Korpg among others)

This change does not affect you.
This change negatively affects other people.
Adding the option to make direct CC payments to SE, alongside the crysta option does not affect you.
Adding the option to make direct CC payments to SE, alongside the crysta option positively affects other people.

People are screaming for a way to directly pay SE with our CC. If SE were to add a method to do this it would have no negative impact whatsoever on you, but would have a positive impact on many. How can you possibily argue against something that doesn't negatively affect you in any way but positively affects many others? It's rediculous.

Blame the people who abused Click and Pay because I'm sure that most of those countries listed in their no-service list were where most of the scams that used Click and Pay came from.

Why not call Square Enix Customer Service and request a payment method to directly pay thru them? They have one setup for JP, maybe they can let you in with that group.

[Puck]

Whoaaa slow down, I'm 16 and I'm raging because I'm not paying for my own account and I don't want the person paying for me to have to jump through all these hoops to pay for a game. Not everyone is daddy's little spoiled brat.

There's a huge difference between your comprehension of the situation and the other minor in question. You clearly have a firm grasp of the situation, Dauntless, and I've seen you make a lot of good points across several threads. The point of Selzak's comment wasn't a generalization about age being a disqualifier for valid opinions, simply that the person in question is incredibly naive and in no way qualified to speak out on financial matters as they've so actively done in such a poor manner across every thread on the topic.
I'm purposely being very wordy because I know one minor in this topic will fully comprehend what I'm saying and another won't.

[Romanova]

I like how OP spend the past few days calling everyone stupid over something the OP thought incorrectly. And is now having a hissy fit over some tags in a thread.

Pot meet kettle.

[Dauntless]

There's a huge difference between your comprehension of the situation and the other minor in question. You clearly have a firm grasp of the situation, Dauntless, and I've seen you make a lot of good points across several threads. The point of Selzak's comment wasn't a generalization about age being a disqualifier for valid opinions, simply that the person in question is incredibly naive and in no way qualified to speak out on financial matters as they've so actively done in such a poor manner across every thread on the topic.
I'm purposely being very wordy because I know one minor in this topic will fully comprehend what I'm saying and another won't.

I lol'd. I like white. I dislike SE apologists.

[Selzak]

Whoaaa slow down, I'm 16 and I'm raging because I'm not paying for my own account and I don't want the person paying for me to have to jump through all these hoops to pay for a game. Not everyone is daddy's little spoiled brat.

Did I say that they were? I started playing when I was about 16, and I used my Dad's CC in the beginning. The difference is that if a financial issue popped up I wasn't going to tell the people who were paying for their own shit that they didn't know what they were talking about and pretend that shady businesses don't exist while I scoffed at them for caring about the 5$ they'd be overpaying every month.

[Dauntless]

Did I say that they were? I started playing when I was about 16, and I used my Dad's CC in the beginning. The difference is that if a financial issue popped up I wasn't going to tell the people who were paying for their own shit that they didn't know what they were talking about and pretend that shady businesses don't exist while I scoffed at them for caring about the 5$ they'd be overpaying every month.

I could've worded that better, I meant that last line as a dig to Rosina, not you.

[Puck]

I like how OP spend the past few days calling everyone stupid over something the OP thought incorrectly. And is now having a hissy fit over some tags in a thread.

Pot meet kettle.

I noticed that in another thread, where suddenly they're all:

I hope things cool down soon. And go back to normal I just want to reconnect with my mates from years pastr and re learn the game. All this rage is making it hard to even post anything. People go into threads just to insult the poster for not raging with them.

"I totally just want everyone to get along, I didn't just spend the last day flaming people over something I was completely wrong about, I just want to chill and be cool with everyone and the trees and the animals."