in light of all the payment raging, (( must read ))

[Korpg]

The typical answer tends to be, "too much effort."

I really hope that this isn't the answer in this case.

[Romanova]

I don't know where you get that whole "korpg blames me for the bank bailout." thing, I'm just asking why you didn't report fraud when it happened.

because it's a major cooperation? I'm not just talking about one particular branch here, this is what they taught us to do in training for all banks. About 3 months after being hired they stopped it because people were catching on. And about 9 months later there was like $3 bucks people got out of a settlement check.

That's how it works with companies like that.

And I don't get how that proves that BoA is a good company either so all of this is irrelevant.

[RAIST]

for those that haven't seen it yet (or otherwise forgot), here is the JP help page for the transfer, through Google Translate:
http://translate.googleusercontent.c...31aAKy-SQVuVrw

Scroll down to section 7. Notice it is basically to select payment method. It's graphics so not translated, but they get option for CC or Crysta--note it is just a standard MC/VISA logo. Now go to section 8b:If you choose a credit card. Note that they can put their CC information directly in, and also note the 3DS and VbV logos in the lower panel. Also note the text under those graphics that did translate:

「クレジットカード」「Crysta」から利用されるお支払方法を選択し、「次へ」をクリックしてください。 "Credit card" "Crysta" and select the payment method used by "Next" Please click on.

※ ※ 「クレジットカード」は、Visa、MasterCardの本人認証サービス（3Dセキュア）に対応したカードがご利用いただけます。 "Credit Card", Visa, personal authentication services for MasterCard (3D Secure) available card with.

※ ※ 「Crysta」はVisa、MasterCard、JCBの本人認証サービス（3Dセキュア）に対応したクレジットカード、およびウェブマネーでチャージすることができます。 "Crysta" are Visa, MasterCard, personal authentication services for JCB (3D secure) credit card with you and to charge money on the web.

クレジットカード番号、有効期限、セキュリティコードを入力し「次へ」をクリックしてください。 Credit card number, expiration date, security code, enter the "Next" please click on the.

Essentially, they get to continue doing what we are doing now in addition to using Crysta.


Now, contrast that to what happens in the NA version:
http://www.playonline.com/homeus/polshift/help.html

At step 7, you get to choose either Crysta or Credit/Debit Card via Click and Buy--note that this step shows the C&B logo, not the generic Visa/MC like on the JP page. Now look at step 8b. You have to go through Click and Buy--no direct processing for 3DS or VbV cards.

[Sp1cyryan]

for those that haven't seen it yet (or otherwise forgot), here is the JP help page for the transfer, through Google Translate:
http://translate.googleusercontent.c...31aAKy-SQVuVrw

Scroll down to section 7. Notice it is basically to select payment method. It's graphics so not translated, but they get option for CC or Crysta--note it is just a standard MC/VISA logo. Now go to section 8b:If you choose a credit card. Note that they can put their CC information directly in, and also note the 3DS and VbV logos in the lower panel. Also note the text under those graphics that did translate:



Essentially, they get to continue doing what we are doing now in addition to using Crysta.


Now, contrast that to what happens in the NA version:
http://www.playonline.com/homeus/polshift/help.html

At step 7, you get to choose either Crysta or Credit/Debit Card via Click and Buy--note that this step shows the C&B logo, not the generic Visa/MC like on the JP page. Now look at step 8b. You have to go through Click and Buy--no direct processing for 3DS or VbV cards.

This is established and known, and it is why we have great cause to be up in arms. It is not like the system is not already in place. If they truly wanted to they could let us continue to be billed as we have been as is the case with the Japanese.

[RAIST]

This is established and known, and it is why we have great cause to be up in arms. It is not like the system is not already in place. If they truly wanted to they could let us continue to be billed as we have been as is the case with the Japanese.

yes, but alot of these threads seem to be getting sidetracked from what the biggger issue is.

[Puck]

Romanova is also responsible for the BP oil spill, the Bernie Madoff ponzi scheme, the News Corp hackings, AND the Sony hackings. Thanks a lot.

[Romanova]

Romanova is also responsible for the BP oil spill, the Bernie Madoff ponzi scheme, the News Corp hackings, AND the Sony hackings. Thanks a lot.

I'm such a bad person ;_;

[Korpg]

I'm such a bad person ;_;

You are if you did unethical things like signing up people to credit cards even though they denied you to do it.

And not reporting the bank to the authorities if that really happened.

[Panthera]

Romanova is also responsible for the BP oil spill, the Bernie Madoff ponzi scheme, the News Corp hackings, AND the Sony hackings. Thanks a lot.

You left out the US Deficit Stand-off, which has nothing to do with our current problems....
...or does it?

[Dauntless]

You left out the US Deficit Stand-off, which has nothing to do with our current problems....
...or does it?

This is off topic, but it's really not a standoff. Politicians just playing theatre, no matter what they're going to end up raising the debt ceiling and our republican president will give republicans alll the cuts they want and the country will get 0 revenue increases.

I wanna move to Norway.