Question about Continuous payment and crysta

[Elexia]

Lol, you just used SE and security in the same sentence.

I take it you weren't around for the mass hackings prior to the introduction of token-IDs?

edit: And the complete and utter fail (on SE's behalf) that was the hacking of FList plus that got a couple of accounts stripped/sent to another server.

Lol at bringing up a scenario that hasn't happened in years.

Protip: When you want to act like a smartass, you have to use recent (past month) example, not something from 2007, 2008 era.

[Aver]

Nah, it's all good, I'll continue acting like a smartass and use events that have happened due to sheer incompetence. Perhaps they've gotten better, but those memories will always be there, and will always influence my opinion of SE's "security"

Now if you know of something more recent, you're more than welcome to contribute

[Kraggy]

there is only 1 choice they give which you don't have to sign up for anything. Game cards. everything else (paypal,playspan) requires you to sign up to a service.

I bought Crysta using Play Span, I DID NOT HAVE TO CREATE AN ACCOUNT.

[Romanova]

edit: And the complete and utter fail (on SE's behalf) that was the hacking of FList plus that got a couple of accounts stripped/sent to another server.

kinda a bad example, as Taj is a special little snowflake, but I don't disagree with you either.

NO IT DOES NOT!

I've bought Crysta with Play Span, guess what, I SIGNED UP TO NOTHING! I did not have to create an account with them, I just paid using my CC and SE credited my Crysta!

Do you live in the US? Here are my options:




I have tried every which way, all over the place it always takes me to the same two options.

[Sp1cyryan]

The fact that people are okay with this or saying that crysta is not a scam is just astounding to me.

This is just nonsensical, the idea that we are going from being able to pay with a credit or debit card to have to buy indirect amounts of crysta (there's the scam, and the hassle to constantly manually do this) or use a shady third party we have to deal with. Is just ridiculous, why can't SE be like the other companies on this planet who don't try to give you an aneurysm when you try to pay for a service?

Imagine if we had to pay our electric bill like this.

"Yeah you want electricity for your refrigerator and things right?"

"Yeah"

"Well sign up with this company who you can pay to then pay us, or buy credits in indirect amounts"

"But why?"

"Well you see, we care more about money and deals with other companies who pay us, than your satisfaction and desire to continue working with us"

I just want to pay my $14.95 and be happy (not something I am expecting or asking SE to do, but making the community needlessly angry is uncalled for). I along with most will not use Click and Buy, and even if crysta was not a scam, and allowed you to pay in direct amounts it still be this needless hassle. Just bill us, don't give us all this silliness.

[Kraggy]

Sorry but I'm really, really confused... from what I've been reading I formulated the idea you could use Paypal to buy Crysta. Now, I'm in Europe (Portugal, if it matters) and want to select Crysta as the selected method. While transfering my account I decided I'd buy some Crysta just in case before I did so. I selected "Add crysta", chose the 20€ option and then I can only pick between ClicknBuy and Ultimate Pay. Question is, "How can I buy crysta with Paypal?"
Sorry if it's been asked before, but I really can't sort the mess in my head alone.

Yup, it's damned confusing, typical SE implementation.

/sigh

To use PayPal you select UltimatePay (Play Span) and use your PayPal to pay them, they tell SE and SE credit you with Crysta. Very easy to do, and you don't have to create an account with Play Span, ignore what some round here are saying about that.

[Romanova]

Very easy to do, and you don't have to create an account with Play Span, ignore what some round here are saying about that.

No one said (myself included) that you had to sign up with play span... We (I) said you had to sign up for a service...paypal is a service you sign up for.

The gamecard is the only thing you don't need to sign up for a service for.

[xbobx]

This does feel like a stop towards micro transactions or p2p. You want to enter abyessa that will be 15 crysta. Not like that would happen

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

I "understand" it's related to the Sony/PS3 data theft incident, but instead of Square-Enix dealing with online security directly, they've dumped that task onto their consumers' shoulders.

The problem is that, in general, the security burden was born by no one, in the name of convenience and ease-of-use.

And implementing stronger security costs money. The options were likely shifting it to a third party that can do it for a reasonable price, or to jack subscription rates up. And looking at the player rage of having to carry a Crysta balance...

I'm furious that the Japanese are being given preferential treatment in this matter,

I'm annoyed by that as well, but as I've mentioned elsewhere, consumer protection laws in Japan are a joke, even by American standards. Merchants are allowed to shift more risk and liability onto consumers in Japan than in S-E's other markets, which means they don't have to care about their Japanese customers' credit card information as much as their North American and European customers. So in Japan it's cheaper and easier to let things continue with busniess as usual.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

Do you live in the US? Here are my options:



I have tried every which way, all over the place it always takes me to the same two options.

Step 0: Go to your local Walmart/GameStop/7-Eleven/CVS/etc. and plunk down $20 (cash!) on an "Ultimate Game Card."

Step 1: Click on the "Ultimate Game Card" tab shown in the picture.

Step 2: Redeem the full value of the card for Crysta ($20).

Step 4: Enter in the number under the scratch-and-sniff section of the back of the card, as well as an email address for your receipt (I used my pol.com email address).

That's it. No signing up for anything. This option is available even if you insist on keeping all of your money stuffed in a mattress.