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  1. #11
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    As for issues with being charged an activation I can see why crysta is used. Crysta is basically an in-house currency which prevents them from being charged any sort of penalties by credit companies if they attempt to take cash that isn't there.

    Though I do agree out of the options provided it doesn't really look like they looked into what other payment options there could be. I wouldn't mind if they sold crysta cards or something like other companies with in-house currencies though I'm hoping if enough people do show their concerns about using click and buy or the other game card they'll seriously consider adding antoher option before the 31'st deadline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unleashhell View Post
    People still do not want to use Click and Buy. What exactly is wrong with the current method? Is SE doing this just because they get some kind of kickback from Click and Buy to use their billing service? With all the negative feedback across the internet on this service why did SE choose this one >.<
    Probably has more to do with the fact that SE won't get hit with chargebacks this way. Personally, I'm not a fan of the current Crysta options, I dont want to have to spend more than the $13 a month for XI. I'd rather SE give us a straight up re-occurring credit card payment option that isn't handed off to some third party company that charges extra fees. People haven't had anything nice to say about click and buy since this kind of stuff went live around the XIV launch and SE has yet to do or even say anything about it as far as i know.

    This sounds like it could almost be another issue to combat RMT that's hurting the players by making farmers pay more money for crysta and then when they get booted SE still has that money regardless of if all of that crysta is used or not. It wouldn't surprise me if this kind of thing was mentioned while setting this up.
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    There are game cards called Ultimatepay (pretty sure i got that right) that you can use as crysta cards. you enter the code on ultimatepay's website and chose to buy crysta from there for your SE account. its not as direct as an actual crysta card could be, but it does the same thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrik View Post
    There are game cards called Ultimatepay (pretty sure i got that right) that you can use as crysta cards. you enter the code on ultimatepay's website and chose to buy crysta from there for your SE account. its not as direct as an actual crysta card could be, but it does the same thing
    Which requires you to go out and purchase said card, input the code etc etc. When before all you had to do was set your CC info in once and never have to touch it ever again.

    SE always has this terrible habit of making it difficult to give them money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fusionx View Post
    Probably has more to do with the fact that SE won't get hit with chargebacks this way. Personally, I'm not a fan of the current Crysta options, I dont want to have to spend more than the $13 a month for XI. I'd rather SE give us a straight up re-occurring credit card payment option that isn't handed off to some third party company that charges extra fees. People haven't had anything nice to say about click and buy since this kind of stuff went live around the XIV launch and SE has yet to do or even say anything about it as far as i know.

    This sounds like it could almost be another issue to combat RMT that's hurting the players by making farmers pay more money for crysta and then when they get booted SE still has that money regardless of if all of that crysta is used or not. It wouldn't surprise me if this kind of thing was mentioned while setting this up.

    IMO this will make MORE RMT activity. if RMT use Click and Buy how would SE be able to trace back CC info like they can now. I don't believe SE would be able to say hey click and buy give me your account records for all these accounts. If click and buy handles all the billing info wouldn't that mean SE cannot trace how many accounts go to 1 credit card like they could now? Unless SE had other methods of tracking RMT. I would have thought SE could look into the billing system they have now and say oh look 50 FF11 accounts are linked to this 1 credit card number. /boot all accounts. idk I could be dead wrong on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fusionx View Post
    Which requires you to go out and purchase said card, input the code etc etc. When before all you had to do was set your CC info in once and never have to touch it ever again.

    SE always has this terrible habit of making it difficult to give them money.
    it just allows an additional option, its not like you HAVE to go buy that card. many people refuse to pay with debit or credit online so these cards are a huge selling point. used to help out at a privately owned game store in town, i realized how many people play WoW simply of the convenience of WoW cards and not having to use their credit cards. so its a plus for the more paranoid older generation, and for younger people or others without debit/credit card.

    (side note, it was funny how many people bought WoW cards WITH a credit card)
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    From what I'm hearing, you just buy the cards with paypal. but yeah, extra step
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    Do any of the Community Reps know if SE has any plans to let people buy the exact amount of Crysta or let people pay SE directly with Credit Cards like the JP players can now, and like everyone else did previously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbobx View Post
    Are you planning to allow us to pay the proper amount of crysta at some point, or are you going to continue to nickle and dime your long time and loyal customers?
    The minimum number of Chrysta should be at $1.00

    I realize that if you play long enough, the math works itself out. But if you don't, you won't get your money's worth. Not getting one's money's worth is, frankly, a rip-off.
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Do any of the Community Reps know if SE has any plans to let people buy the exact amount of Crysta or let people pay SE directly with Credit Cards like the JP players can now, and like everyone else did previously.
    ClickandBuy allows the exact charge option that can just be done automatically every month as usual (if i'm understanding that all correctly), though at the moment, crysta can't be purchased like that.
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