Well, I'm in the EU and I refuse to use ClipandBye, and would actually prefer PayPal (which I've used for one payment ever, about 3 years ago, but still have an account there).
Originally Posted by Ilax
So Crysta would be the only option for me.
I don't like that, and even though I have mentioned elsewhere that it should be banished into oblivion, along with ClapandDye, I have nothing really against it staying, but it should not be the only alternative.
As a European, I think I might be more used to using 3rd party payment companies, though, and I was actually unable to play FFXI from about 2004 to 2006 because I could not pay for it. Later on, I could pay with a Visa Electron, though not exactly supported, it just worked like a Credit Card.
That said, I don't like the new options, and I have my reasons not to but that doesn't really matter.
What matters is that several players will likely quit due to this, and it should not be due to a payment method. :\
Many will of course not quit, many will be back, but others will quit fer sure.
All in all, I'm interested to see what will become of this in the end, and if they will add more options to pay 'directly'.
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07-30-2011 05:52 AM #32
eh... SE would have to go into negotiations and jump thorugh paypal's hoops to allow you to direct pay through paypal, otherwise you'd have to sign in to authorize payments. It would involve much less effort for them to just port the current directpay option we have via POL now--they've already done all the hard work setting it up for the JP region on the new pages, most of that can be ported to the other regions very easily.
Would be nice if they could work something out for direct pay via paypal though if they really are dead-set against storing are CC info to do direct batch processing for us every 30 days. It could pretty much resolve payment issues for nearly everyone that is getting shut out now. Would allow me to use a different card too--one less monthly payment for me to have to handle every month.(0){DISCLAIMER} Posts may contain opinions based on personal experiences that are not be meant to be taken as facts. What may appear as fact with no source reference may be recollection of information with no source, and may be subject to scrutiny without source reference. Any debate over validity of said facts without source references may be considered conjecture of all parties in that debate. Player comments may not be the expressed position/consent of SE, their affiliates, or any employees of said organizations. Please take these posts with a grain of salt if you are offended by the views of the player and understand that opinions are like assholes... everyone has one, not everyone wants to hear it.
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Appears to only be an EU thing. The NA page makes no mention of expiration nor does it have that expiration diagram that exists on the EU site.
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Also, we have paypal. Just because the payment goes through playspan first doesn't mean anything. Paypal is still sending the money from you.(0)
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Hmmm, I really thought it was the other way around not many days ago when I was checking those sites!
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As in, the EU had less info and the NA had more...
Maybe I'm just going crazy. ^^;(0)...or so the legend says.
07-31-2011 03:19 AM #35But it's not a direct pay with paypal. It's a manual transfer from Playspin, playspin fetches the money from paypal.
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I think what the OP wants is a way to pay for FFXI directly from PayPal, possibly for the purpose of automated recurring billing too and not manual payment.(0){DISCLAIMER} Posts may contain opinions based on personal experiences that are not be meant to be taken as facts. What may appear as fact with no source reference may be recollection of information with no source, and may be subject to scrutiny without source reference. Any debate over validity of said facts without source references may be considered conjecture of all parties in that debate. Player comments may not be the expressed position/consent of SE, their affiliates, or any employees of said organizations. Please take these posts with a grain of salt if you are offended by the views of the player and understand that opinions are like assholes... everyone has one, not everyone wants to hear it.
07-31-2011 04:05 AM #36Someone mentioned on the FB FFXI page paying the small extra fee to SE themselves.
I'd be fine with that. If we have to pay a small fee to go through PayPal, fine whatever.
Prediction announcement on Monday about changes to payment procedure. They need to get on this PR nightmare right away.(0)
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You can pay with PayPal on Rift and they don't seem to be having any problems.
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Playspin? how did they spin you? what's so horrible about playspan? they're just an intermediary.But it's not a direct pay with paypal. It's a manual transfer from Playspin, playspin fetches the money from paypal.
I used paypal, sent $20, a minute later I had 2000 crysta. No fees, no problem.
I don't see what's so horrible about the payment going through playspan. Visa bought them out I think?, and if you cant trust your own card company....(0)Last edited by Alhanelem; 07-31-2011 at 09:56 AM.
07-31-2011 10:31 AM #39lol... double typos I guess? went back to my other posts and I was typing it with an A. Brain fart I guess. Take a chill pill.
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07-31-2011 10:33 AM #40May have stumbled on something about C&B. There might actually be a specific reason why some financial institutions are rejecting them, just haven't been able to get further details as it looks like the site I was in just hit a maintenance window while I was on it.
Click&Buy is stating they are authorised and regulated by the FSA UK:
http://www.clickandbuy.com/EU/en/sa/...bereich=surferClickandBuy International Limited is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority in the United Kingdom. (Register Number: 454127)
So out of curiosity I went to pull up their reports on them, but can't get any real info on them just yet as it looks like they've started stopping some webapps for maintenance or something while I was browsing. This particular one went offline just after I pulled it up, but the first page from my search was still in my cached pages so I was able to grab at least their basic info:
http://www.fsa.gov.uk/Pages/register/index.shtml
searched on firm registration number: 454127
Clicked the e-money link and that's when pages started coming up as unavailable. Guess I hit it right when they were taking things down.Basic details for:
454127 - ClickandBuy International Limited
Current status: No longer Authorised
Effective Date: 01/07/2011
Tied Agent:
Undertakes Insurance Mediation:
Registered under Money Laundering Regulations:
Address: Lincoln House
137/143 Hammersmith Road
London
W14 0QL
Phone:
Fax:
Email:
Website:
44 020 7605 0670
44 020 7751 1848
No e-mail supplied
www.clickandbuy.com
Notices:
Other information: The firm now has an e-money record. Please check the e-money link for more information.
Interesting that their basic info states they are not authorised. Which is a little concerning as they are still claiming on their site that they are authorised.
When you go to the FSA's detail on status entries, it simply states
http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pages/Register...us/index.shtmlNo longer authorised
A firm is no longer allowed to carry out certain types of business that we regulate.
Which makes me even more curious about just what they are no longer authorized to do, and why. Wish I could get at the reports to get more info.
If there is indeed something fishy going on with them that is causing the regulators to pimp-slap them....maybe SE needs to take a cue from the CC companies and find someone else... FAST.(2)Last edited by RAIST; 07-31-2011 at 10:39 AM.
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