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    I am not here to insult just sharing my experience from when I play.

    Also the whole "a bad person will be bad no matter how they level" is flawed concept. If a bad player is willing to learn, leveling the old school way is the best thing for him since he learns the timing of his skills.

    Take a real life example, you can read up on how to make a cake and decorate it all you want. But you will never really learn if yiu do not physically learn how to do it. If simply reading stuff makes people "good" at their jobs we would all be rich since we would master any sorta of job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina View Post
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    I am not here to insult just sharing my experience from when I play.

    Also the whole "a bad person will be bad no matter how they level" is flawed concept. If a bad player is willing to learn, leveling the old school way is the best thing for him since he learns the timing of his skills.

    Take a real life example, you can read up on how to make a cake and decorate it all you want. But you will never really learn if yiu do not physically learn how to do it. If simply reading stuff makes people "good" at their jobs we would all be rich since we would master any sorta of job.
    1: Bad player = not willing to learn. A good player will learn, no matter what route he takes to learn it.

    2: IRL Jobs =/= FFXI jobs.

    Seriously. This game isn't so hard that it takes time to learn how to (for examples sake) jump on drg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina View Post
    Leeching is NOT the way to level. If you do not like the job DO NOT LEVEL IT. Simple. Everyone who is a noobie to a class/game will be bad at it till they learn And so far. Everyone who leeched is bad. All they do is button mash fights and go lol when they steal hate. That isn't being good. That is playing dumb. Being great at your job is knowing when to do you skills/abilities in sync with your group, and in synce with a particular boss. Such as knowing when your turn is in a stun line on diablos. Reading does jack. Physically playing is what makes you good.
    Expect none of this you would learn in exp parties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina View Post

    Also the whole "a bad person will be bad no matter how they level" is flawed concept. If a bad player is willing to learn...
    Then they're not a bad player, are they? They're inexperienced. A bad player refuses to learn.

    Yeah. We got it. You hate speed. You probably like the Slowskys from the Comcast commercials. Hate to break it to you but the majority of the player base enjoys the speed.
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    Rosina, if you were on Asura I would show you the Abyssea ropes.

    Spoiler:
    You're supposed to mash buttons, hate doesn't matter because of Refresh, paladin is useless in abyssea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonlionheart View Post
    1: Bad player = not willing to learn. A good player will learn, no matter what route he takes to learn it.

    2: IRL Jobs =/= FFXI jobs.

    Seriously. This game isn't so hard that it takes time to learn how to (for examples sake) jump on drg.
    i played this game from ps2 launch day on and off. I can tell you the horror stories of the ppl i ran into who you can tell leeched their way to level. I had tanks who got PL the hole time and didn't know how to tank.

    I had white mages who didn't know what several spells did they a normal whm would.

    I had blms who refused to slow down their nuking and say "just get a PL".

    i had over 40000 melee players go ape on mobs and die, then blame the actual decent tank.

    all these people have leeched or got PL the whole time they played. There was no "risk" for them to learn their timing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina View Post
    i played this game from ps2 launch day on and off. I can tell you the horror stories of the ppl i ran into who you can tell leeched their way to level. I had tanks who got PL the hole time and didn't know how to tank.

    I had white mages who didn't know what several spells did they a normal whm would.

    I had blms who refused to slow down their nuking and say "just get a PL".

    i had over 40000 melee players go ape on mobs and die, then blame the actual decent tank.

    all these people have leeched or got PL the whole time they played. There was no "risk" for them to learn their timing.
    I'm going to assume "Returning player" means you haven't done new content yet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meyi View Post
    Then they're not a bad player, are they? They're inexperienced. A bad player refuses to learn.

    Yeah. We got it. You hate speed. You probably like the Slowskys from the Comcast commercials. Hate to break it to you but the majority of the player base enjoys the speed.
    Nope i enjoy good players who know their classes and actively plays not, ego stroking leechers who would rather get high and rot their brains, then even learn their class via playing.

    Simply put any real gamer learns by doing. Simple.


    If you leechers are not willing to play go find a non leveling mmo. Such as DCUO or WoW. you fot those better. Don't ruin an mmo with your petty mind set. Sorry no offence just leechers are scum in my eyes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina View Post
    Nope i enjoy good players who know their classes and actively plays not, ego stroking leechers who would rather get high and rot their brains, then even learn their class via playing.

    Simply put any real gamer learns by doing. Simple.


    If you leechers are not willing to play go find a non leveling mmo. Such as DCUO or WoW. you fot those better. Don't ruin an mmo with your petty mind set. Sorry no offence just leechers are scum in my eyes.
    Hi I leeched WHM BLM SMN DRG DRK to 90 but

    I can't play them because I haven't been playing them from 1~75. Not like you get some of your most important abilities AT 75 (SEE: Desperate Blows)...

    You're silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina View Post
    Nope i enjoy good players who know their classes and actively plays not, ego stroking leechers who would rather get high and rot their brains, then even learn their class via playing.

    Simply put any real gamer learns by doing. Simple.


    If you leechers are not willing to play go find a non leveling mmo. Such as DCUO or WoW. you fot those better. Don't ruin an mmo with your petty mind set. Sorry no offence just leechers are scum in my eyes.
    I fot those better? ; ;

    Seriously though, at least you're honest in stating your opinion. "Leeching" just happens, it isn't even always leeching. Every abyssea party needs a key whore, and as OP said every book burn needs a sync. Those aren't actual leeches, they are helping the party.
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