Confessions of a Leech

[Seyrena]

I think it cheapens the value of having max level jobs, or jobs of any level really, for everyone. Every notice how people used to say "grats!" when people got their levels or merit points, and now they don't? It's because 1) exp is hyper inflated and 2) you don't have to work for it.

No offense, but I don't support this kind of thing.

The thing is, I don't leech through all my levels. I don't think leeching is the cause of cheapened accomplishments. Instead, it's GoV and Dom Ops themselves that are the direct cause of it.

Also, I don't do it for personal benefit alone. Yeah, having free exp from 15-25 is nice, but others benefit from my leeching by several orders of magnitude, whether it's providing sync in GoV parties, or keymastering in Abyssea.

[Octaviane]

I don't like it either and personally do not leech, but, I don't pay for other people's accounts. They have the right to do as they please. I (and many of my friends) prefer to enjoy the game on our own time and in our own way. When most everyone else is at level 99, we will still have things to do, how about you?

[Octaviane]

In all fairness too, I have friends who won't go into Abyssea until minimum level 65 - 70+ depending on the job they are working on. I think this is probably the best rule of thumb and I admire them for their choice.

[Seyrena]

In all fairness too, I have friends who won't go into Abyssea until minimum level 65 - 70+ depending on the job they are working on. I think this is probably the best rule of thumb and I admire them for their choice.

That is my choice as well. I will not leech ever past 70.

[Rearden]

I'm with the leech to 90 train, level into +2 gear and emp weapons, continue playing with select group, ignoring rest of the game.

[Panthera]

The thing is, I don't leech through all my levels. I don't think leeching is the cause of cheapened accomplishments. Instead, it's GoV and Dom Ops themselves that are the direct cause of it.

Also, I don't do it for personal benefit alone. Yeah, having free exp from 15-25 is nice, but others benefit from my leeching by several orders of magnitude, whether it's providing sync in GoV parties, or keymastering in Abyssea.

Please take none of this personally.^^ I'm not accusing you of leeching your way through the entire game or anything like that. This is just a handful of levels, not like cheating 30-90. I'd prefer none at all, but no one is perfect. This is a purely academic discussion (some people just flip out over it). That said...

Your arguement confounds means and ends. Sure, being a level sync designee enables others to get exp. You will have a useful subjob or max level job--for which you could get gear, I might add, so this isn't exactly selfless, not that that's your contention. This discussion has been had else where in adjusting the level cap threads. To recap, the levels earned do not reflect one's own work, so it is false representation; it deprives someone else that same level of a spot in the party who'd be willing to work for it; evade the leveling process; and isn't entirely an honest way of going about getting exp. Leeching is cheating, a bad means, though it has a few good ends that benefit others.

I don't much care for keymastering one's way to 90 from any level, but at least it's doing something, even if it isn't combat related. Do-nothing leeching, which this is, cheapens other people's levels. I'm soloing through the very levels you mentioned. But saying "I have job X at level y," is not praise-worthy, because that can be gotten just standing around afk. Saying,"I solo'd to level Y" is praise-worthy, because the work is self-evident. This is why I disagree with you about how AFKIng cheapens job levels, in addition to the hyper-inflated exp.

But, I do like to see that people have some kind of ethics about leeching, and apply some kind of rules to it, rather than leeching all of one's levels, when buying an account would be nearly the same thing.

[Korpg]

Sorry, but cheating 30-90?

[cidbahamut]

Every notice how people used to say "grats!" when people got their levels or merit points, and now they don't?

It was dumb at 75 and it's just as dumb now. Nothing has changed in that regard.

[Panthera]

It was dumb at 75 and it's just as dumb now. Nothing has changed in that regard.

You support your argument beautifully.

[Olor]

Eh, I have to say, seeing the train wreck that XIV is, and the horrific grind of it, and the foolish players who defend the poor design based on the outdated idea that "exp is hard" - I think leeching levels is no big deal. I would rather play this game in the state it is, where leeching levels is easy (and even in some cases beneficial to the group) than go through XIV or play the XI that was before, where I spent years never breaking 50 (part of that was being forced to start new chars, but I had some of those chars from 8-10 months never breaking 50).

I'm having a lot more fun now. As an XIV refugee as well as a former player of the XI that was, I love the way XI is now and I heartily oppose anyone who wants the grind back.