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    Blitzstrahl Proc

    I've noticed that Blitzstrahl seems to have more difficulty than other spells to process magic weakness!

    I assume this is because the spell has additional effect: Stun and proc'ing while stunned doesn't seem to work..

    Removing the stun =/= proc would fix this and save a lot of headache.

    And it's not the correct forum, but can we change all magic proc'ing so that casting the correct spell under the correct conditions (when monster is not casting/tping etc) will cause proc, whether or not the spell lands?

    There are many situations where the correct spell to proc a mob turns out to be a status ailment or element it is immune to.. removing the condition that the spell must land will fix this.
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    Player Rambus's Avatar
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    I never had problems with blitztrahl personally, the only one i cant stand is 1000 needles.

    There are many situations where the correct spell to proc a mob turns out to be a status ailment or element it is immune to.. removing the condition that the spell must land will fix this.
    I only seen problems with that with spells like brd songs or the nin blind move.

    those undead looking things when you need a brd song or ninja spell is not fun on dark weakness
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    Last edited by Rambus; 03-10-2011 at 12:31 PM.

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    I've hit emperador de altepa a dozen times with blitzstrahl, and I was not able to proc it because the stun always landed.

    I was naked and used earth staff also. I had to go remove atma for stun not to proc and the weakness to trigger. Its a problem. Often players just assume its not a blue magic spell.
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    In all honesty I've had more trouble with 1000 Needles immunity rather than Stun negating !! process. I would much rather have immunities to Threnody/1k needles/dispel/kurayami fixed, but both can go hand in hand. To my knowledge all I've heard from SE is "We know about the problem" but now how/when they plan to fix it.
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    I always equip light staff for 1000 needles. I've not had trouble landing it.

    They plan to do something. No, they haven't told us what yet. I'm interested in seeing what.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilk View Post
    I always equip light staff for 1000 needles. I've not had trouble landing it.

    They plan to do something. No, they haven't told us what yet. I'm interested in seeing what.
    Try using 1000 Needles on Orthus, Amorok, Cuijatender, Emperador de Altepa, various Mandragora NM, or either Hydra in Abyssea - Grauberg (and yes I'm aware of magic barrier on hydra).

    At first I thought it was an obvious correlation issue (since all of the listed are either beast or plantiod type), but even with Superior magic acc, Light magic acc atma, Tonic, Apollo's staff, Elemental Seal, and upwards of +40macc in gear I could not land the spell even after numerous attempts. If anything I expect obvious lesser damage from the spell, but not full on resists every time used. Aside from some select weapons, my blu is very well geared for either physical or magical spells. The list is a little longer than what I have placed as a sample, so it is not on a vast majority of NM. I'm almost certain it is possibly a Correlation error that creates the immunity, but I don't know of many LS, let alone groups that will wait around for the recast on this Spell more than 3-4 max attempts before deciding to just kill it.
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    Last edited by Kitkat; 03-10-2011 at 04:02 PM.

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    I hope it isn't a nerf ;x Blitz has a nice long stun effect. I personally haven't ever ran into these problems with blitz but they are looking into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    I hope it isn't a nerf ;x Blitz has a nice long stun effect. I personally haven't ever ran into these problems with blitz but they are looking into it.
    Shouldn't need a nerf to the stun...its just an order of operations check that needs to be moved. The weakness check is tacked on after the damage and debuff checks have been made so if the stun lands the weakness check fails due to the stun.
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    Player Michae's Avatar
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    The only one I have ever had issuse with is 1000 Needles, that spell is a pain to land for procs with the casting/recasting time as it is. Its hard on some mobs to land it while they are not doing tp moves or something else that makes it dirty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    I hope it isn't a nerf ;x Blitz has a nice long stun effect. I personally haven't ever ran into these problems with blitz but they are looking into it.
    Just did Sobek, had to cast 6-7 times to get yellow, so yes it needs to be fixed.
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