Suggestions to Improve/Rebalance Vanadiel's Divas

[Rosina]

Unless you have Terpsichore, you spend >1 second and 3.333~5 TP to gain 1 finishing move. With capped delay reduction, one attack round is also a little >1 second. With Saber Dance and good gear, one attack round is about 2.7 swings.

In order to use a 5FM Reverse Flourish with Marches (assuming a 100% Step Hit Rate), you've spent 20 TP and 16.4 swings (including Reverse Flourish itself). If you hit for 5.5 TP, you've lost 110 TP total. You've spent over a weaponskill worth of TP and 16.4 hits worth of damage to make a self-skillchain and Defense -9%. That's assuming that you're entirely efficient and don't over-TP while you're readying yourself for the self-skillchain, and assuming what you're fighting has enough HP (left) that it needs the skillchain. Basically, as we approach the Haste cap Steps and Flourishes become not worth using for damage purposes because of job ability delay. This whole calculation was carried through assuming a much more efficient Dancer than reality.

Simplicity brings efficiency much of the time, so a simpler strategy (WS when you have 100TP) is going to be carried out more efficiently than a more complicated strategy (Use Presto, then use Box Step exactly 1 second after it, then use Box Step again exactly 15 second later, then use Rudra's Storm exactly 1 second later, then use Reverse Flourish exactly 1 (or 2?) second later, then use Evisceration exactly 1 second later).

Admittedly, I don't take my own advice and continue to do a step/flourish rotation even when I have enough Haste that I shouldn't. Still, I'd like for the fun and Dancer-ish way to play the job to also be the best way to play it.

your playing wrong then I've had 0 issues with using my skills >.>

sorry for the harsh tones in my 2 posts Just you guys are making me giggle a bit on the complaint about this class.

some tips : steps get better with dex. wait till 300% tp, use reverse flourish alot. this help tons to be a great dancer. I do not relay on the best gear and solo alot of stuff as my old 90 dnc. The character was kekkaishi a mithra on lakshmi. Just in case someone can vouch for me

I'm also leveling dnc on rosina (hence the siggy) and doing great as dnc/thf. Doing well in keeping my parry skills capped. heck I was fighting 5+ mobs at a time in the canyon @ dnc 15. most the mobs were easy prey to decent minus the decent and even match yag that joined. XD

Kept alive pretty easily also.

[Rearden]

Byrth is by far, hands down, no contest, contenders where?, unmatched, world champion level, WWE Heavyweight Champion of the World best and most knowledgeable DNC to ever grace these forums.

I know you have ADD or Schizophrenia or something, so TLR? Shut up and listen.

[Karbuncle]

The answer to being a better dancer is to suck at being a DNC?

[Tamoa]

heck I was fighting 5+ mobs at a time in the canyon @ dnc 15. most the mobs were easy prey to decent minus the decent and even match yag that joined. XD

Kept alive pretty easily also.

Your example of how good a dnc you are, is telling people that you survived fighting 5 EP to EM mobs at once at level 15???

Good god.

[Economizer]

Your example of how good a dnc you are, is telling people that you survived fighting 5 EP to EM mobs at once at level 15???

I remember doing this when a ton of links showed up next to a maw in hopes that someone would do something about it. In the end I kept getting Goblin links for a while and killing things super slowly because I could only use TP for healing. It was cool Dancer could do that, but I think it would have been faster to home point and go back, it was so slow.

[Quetzacoatl]

Your example of how good a dnc you are, is telling people that you survived fighting 5 EP to EM mobs at once at level 15???

Good god.

Roflmao, I know right? She could at least provide a more epic example.

[user201108211515]

dnc could make very good use of juggler abilitys.. Since we wont ever be seeing that job...

A smile toss type ja to reset another players JA.. randomly im sure.

weapon , ball, ring toss type moves.

Dare I menton mimic...

[Asymptotic]

DNC excels at old content, but who cares if you can solo bosses that were designed for level 75 cap 15 levels later?
It's great in Abyssea, except that it's made useless by the proc system so there's little reason to bring it unless you're like me and militant about it :P

We're talking about making DNC useful on future HNM-type content, not on old trash content.

Also if anyone else mentions D.Flourish, I just might have an aneurysm

[Asymptotic]

some tips : steps get better with dex.

What the-?
Do you realize how wrong you are?

[Byrth]

What the-?
Do you realize how wrong you are?

Tip of the iceberg my friend, tip of the iceberg. Don't read the rest. Spare yourself.