Power leveling, book burns, Speed leveling. What is the appeal?

[Rosina]

Ravenmore, you do waste time playing an mmo. And not mmo are like that either. Infact it was the appeal of ffxi to have a good community.

Please do keep elitism out of the comments though. I'm not asking to change people. I'm just asking out of curiosity.
Talking makes leveling and being in a group fun. It doesn't waste time at all. And there is only 50K players in ffxiv because of the manuel attacking preventing from people to communicate in groups. And no one is enjoying the zerg fests.
I never stated leveling as content. But you can't say there isn't any content from 1-75. Just because no one does them doesn't make it any less content. Infact most people do not do them because they do not know they exist

anyway this is just my opinion. Not here to change anyones opinion. Just asking of curiosity as to the appeal of speed leveling.

[Zyeriis]

FFXIV is getting auto-attack in it's update tomorrow I believe.

[Karbuncle]

Ravenmore, you do waste time playing an mmo. And not mmo are like that either. Infact it was the appeal of ffxi to have a good community.

Please do keep elitism out of the comments though. I'm not asking to change people. I'm just asking out of curiosity.
Talking makes leveling and being in a group fun. It doesn't waste time at all. And there is only 50K players in ffxiv because of the manuel attacking preventing from people to communicate in groups. And no one is enjoying the zerg fests.
I never stated leveling as content. But you can't say there isn't any content from 1-75. Just because no one does them doesn't make it any less content. Infact most people do not do them because they do not know they exist

anyway this is just my opinion. Not here to change anyones opinion. Just asking of curiosity as to the appeal of speed leveling.

In the defense of "power leveling" people, Most mid-game content is absolute garbage with crap rewards and isnt worth the effort in todays FFXI world.

Garrisons: has terrible rewards,.
Eco Warrior: is evil.
Exped. Force: see Eco Warrior.
BCNM20/30's have mostly crap rewards too, but those that dont can also be done at level 90.

etc. Most of it is supremely under-rewarding due to it all be produced during a time where 2k an hour was good exp, and 300 gil for a quest was boss as hell. No one does it because its out-dated content and its rewards aren't worth the effort today.

Back when i first began, I did Exped. Forces and Eco-Warrior like, once a week, it was really fun back then because for Eco-Warrior, 5k gil and like, 2k exp was really awesome. But today its not so much.

So you can't really blame people for not playing like we did back in the day, Because that content is out-dated and not rewarding. We enjoyed it when it was new, I feel sorry for people who dont get to experience it like i did, through the eyes of someone joining the game before even CoP was released...

But times change, and the dynamics change. Its now about endgame content, the game is so old that its pretty much expected, very few new players coming in and old ones are/were already 75 by the time the caps got risen up.

I don't know what else to say ... I lost my train of thought.

[Ravenmore]

Yeah cause all those JP only brds and up tight rdms that refused to party with out a brd. I have good memories of pre- abyssea every drg burn I ever did. Any party that wasn't retarded enough to think high exp per kill was a good idea when it took 2xs as long to kill for not even double the exp. For the longest time before level sync find a healer at you level was the hardest part of putting a party together. I'm not going to think of how many bad parties that I put togther even with the perfect jobs, either it took to long to make everyone happy, there was no decent camps, we all know how people love leveling bibki bay and on trolls.

My fav though is going from 59 blu to 75 blu with 2 parties that I was invited since I was already in the zone soloing and they need a rep for a hour. That was the best flag up the whole time since those rdms and whms I invited to parties just loved taking a invite from a blu. If you couldn't get a whm or rdm and a brd waste of everyones time to sit around and wait holding everyone else up.

[Meyi]

Well Rosina, it seems my post was skipped, so I'll just say it again; it's really easy to chat and have fun in today's parties. Even more so than it use to be! People don't have to focus as vigorously as they had to in the past, and in general, it seems a lot more people are laid back and accepting the game as a game meant to have fun. So get out there and chat away!

[Enoah35]

Back in the time of 75s, I obtained my Maat cap but it took me almost 3 years to achieve it. Most of my melee jobs appart from a select few I was soloing colibris from high 60s till 70s. The exp that I gained were from those long and boring solo sessions + besieged + campaign and the escort quest once a day. When the FOV has been introduced I did some of those too.

Being and european I don't have much choice on forming parties. So that is basically not an option unless its friday and weekend when I can adjust the time. Still staying up all night just for the game was not my thing. Lets not forget that we did have very few camps before ToAR has been introduced. I remember camping on Kuftal tiger/cocatrice(sp?), bones on King Ramp's or Gustav's bones on 60s and 70s. I bet new players don't even know these camps (appart from the fact that they changed mob places for GoV).

I did lead a lot of parties but in all it took me more time forming the parties and then traveling to the camp site praying no rival parties were there (back before ToAR). When ToaR got introduced and level sync, these old camps died out. Now everyone was after killing colibris. Camp site were overloaded and even if you could form a party, the lack of camps made it difficult.

All in all I don't mind the easy mode (it does take a while to build up till this state, like collecting atmas and other things) we have now. It was just added too late and a bit too extreme compared to what we have experienced before. Only gripe is the need of skilling up to do after an exp session cause the speed you getting levels doesn't match the speed your skills are getting up. Probably you spend more time skilling up than leveling up now.

[Ravenmore]

Well Rosina, it seems my post was skipped, so I'll just say it again; it's really easy to chat and have fun in today's parties. Even more so than it use to be! People don't have to focus as vigorously as they had to in the past, and in general, it seems a lot more people are laid back and accepting the game as a game meant to have fun. So get out there and chat away!

Thats what I was trying to say, now it doesn't matter much its far more lay back if you not geared to the gils it won't effect exp you can chat all you want no one will get mad. For mages its far less stress making sure all the melees have haste you managing your MP so you have as little down time as possible and at the end of the party your not totally drained. I haven't seen a true fake D/C in a long time in a long time.

I focus on all the times a party never left town or took a hour just to find members only to be pushed out of a camp or drop out of a party when they pulled that. Now camps can surport 2 allis in abyssea at one camp. Thats double all 3 of the bird camps put together. Lower level camps could only surport one maybe 2 parties good luck trying to get 5 other people to try some were else or if they had that area. Even now you need fewer healers for 18 people to level in low level book burns. 1 whm and a back up healer is enough to cover a whole alli or a few of the DDs are /dnc and can take care of them selfs.There always been far more dds then healers so having the few cover the most is good way to keep jobs from getting pushed out of exp cause their not the best DD for exp.

[Malamasala]

People avoid low levels because there is so little to do there.

You are a level 50 SMN... what can you do? Hardly anything.
You are a level 30 NIN... how's tanking working for you? Not so well I'd guess.
You are a level 35 COR... enjoying to shoot bullets that do no damage but cost a fortune? Probably not.

I'd have no problems playing any job at level 1, had I all my JA/JT/spells. Level doesn't matter at all, only how many actions per minute I can do.

[Rosina]

ah ok. i really do not want an opinion debate. more to get ppls personal opinions. on why is speed levelong good. Not really why it is like that. I know the why. I've been playing this game on and off for years.

And My pov is i never had s great experience with any of these things I mentioned. And I have my own personal onpions on the effects of it. Not that I'm going to share for fear of being hated, insulted and the like.
More or less i'm trying to learn why it is good and get use to the speed leveling. I just wish I had a better experience with this stuff. And play how I like as well.

[Neonii]

The reason for speed leveling from my point of view is, it was pretty much all that was available. I remember my first dunes party was a group of folks power leveling their alts. I did not want to be a ploob so I mostly used fov and campaign to level my character. I read a lot of guides. I was in the low 70's when the first level cap raise came in and for the first time I was able to find a party regularly as folks started the race to 80.

Ploob=power leveled noob (a person with a high leveled character which was power leveled leaving them clueless as to how to play it). This term was popular on my last online game.