Power leveling, book burns, Speed leveling. What is the appeal?

[Rosina]

I'm a long time ffxi player, now coming back to ffxi. I started this game back in ps2 launch. And on and off till today. As the years rolled by these options started to take shape. First it started with power leveling.

At first only rmt parties did that. Then normal player groups started to rely on them. Almost to the point of outright refusal of joining a group without one.

Then with sync smn burns started to show up, again to the point where a player ONLY wants to do smn burns. Now with these new ground tomes, book burns are around. Why question is just out of curiosity. What is the appeal of speed leveling? Why just join parties to level up?

Personally I miss the old ways of forming a group, which was about having fun talking and meeting new people.

Is speed leveling around because people think there is only high level content? Or do not see the low/mid level content?

Anyway i'm not starting a flame war. Just curious to the appeal.

[Karbuncle]

Its because Mid/Low Level content is all shit and out-dated. There really isn't a huge market for Garrison armor, BCNM20/30/40 Stuff (Though some of those are done for a spot few things, Mannequin parts, Scrolls, etc).

Plus all of that can be done once you hit 90 anyway.

I don't really hate the idea of book burns, Abyssea burns, etc, Because... they can play how they want really, But i see where you concerns come from. There still are a few normal exp parties out there.

I see no problems with Speed leveling only because i don't think the biggest grind in an MMO should be Reaching cap.

Thats just one mans opinion, however.

[Meyi]

It's exciting seeing the high numbers rolling in and hearing the fanfare of leveling up at break-neck speed. Many of the old players are tired of the traditional 3k/hr parties, so naturally reaching closer to 200k/hr is much more satisfying. Also, there really isn't a whole lot to do between levels 1 and 90, as anything can be done as a level 90, so there's no need to go slowly to hit certain quests or missions as we go. The sooner we reach 90, the easier the content becomes. And, at 90 we can help our friends in Abyssea, WoE, Voidwatchers, etc.

Leveling can be fun but a lot of the old players have become burnt out on the activity. I know I have. After my seventh job on my Elvaan I had decided I was done with leveling. But with Abyssea, leveling my Taru's Black Mage, White Mage, and Summoner has actually been a blast!

And who says you can't make friends in book burning parties or abyssea? Since abyssea is so laid back and monsters are so easy to defeat, people can actually hold up relatively decent conversations without the party's success being jeopardized. And hey, now we have eighteen people to party with instead of just six -- that's three times the amount of people to chat to at once!

[Rosina]

I personally do content for the fun of doing it. Not just for the gear. I think leveling should take time, but not in a grind fasion. More or less to allow people to get to know their jobs. I do not mind the playing how you like. I think it became a "grind" once people only sought out parties JUST to level. And didn't care to much on who they grouped with. Which wasn't how things were before.

Pretty much I'm nicely saying I hate these styles of grouping, due to the chaoticness of them and simple fact that i have to throw a tantrum to be allowed to play my role. (tank/healer if i'm asked to do so.) And then made fun of for plying the game the way it was meant to be played. I guess i'm curious since I never had a good experience.

And A party i was in earlier was a book burn in gusgen, and no one really healed everyone just spam cured the skeletons. I went afk and come back get a page only for the groups leader to /slap me. Ya it is a game emote, but still is rude. And left shortly after.

(just my 2 cents)

[Ravenmore]

Everyone just sought out parties for levels. If you had done that in a bird merit party or if your a dd any level you would had came back to seeing a rep having your spot if you went with out saying anything. Trust me book burning is far more forgiving then old six man parties and not having to wait days for a invite helps more then anything. Even having to wait a hour in the zone for spot to open is better then waiting a couple of days in jeuno for a healer and tank to pop that will level sysnc down to the same level.

Before you bring up people talking in parties that died after level 10. Its my time to exp I want to get as much as I can before I have to log so wasting time chating is wasting my exp so when I made the parties the chatty people got kicked and rep. Now with book burns you can chat all you want to its not going to hurt my exp and if i'm the leader you won't get kicked.

It is because there is not on thing you can do 1 to 90 that you can't do at 90 so you might as well get to 90 to enjoy the other 99% of the game. Leveling is not content thats one of the reason FF14 has 50k players and yes that is not leaving a 0 off.

[Michae]

I miss them too. It wasnt always about getting lvls, that was just a perk of some pts. It was really about meeting new ppl, talking and having a good time. Granted you did need to get lvls and skills and all of that, but you advanced in the game by joining forces with people you met along the way...usually in pts. Now the game has turned into who can get all their jobs to 90, who can have the empy weapons and +2 gear and ppl have turned into savages to get there in some cases. Worse than before. You can tell by the sheer amount of trolling, fighting and taunting in /sh and now unfortunately /yells that this game is going into the crapper /sigh and it was such a good game before they gimped it

[Leonlionheart]

This again.

There is no content 1~75.
Garrison is not content, since no one does it.
Eco Warrior isn't either.
CoP was content, but lol not anymore.

Why get to 90 ASAP? Killing Rani > Killing 9000000000000000 Crawlers in Crawlers nest for 9 hours for 2 levels.

[Ravenmore]

I miss them too. It wasnt always about getting lvls, that was just a perk of some pts. It was really about meeting new ppl, talking and having a good time. Granted you did need to get lvls and skills and all of that, but you advanced in the game by joining forces with people you met along the way...usually in pts. Now the game has turned into who can get all their jobs to 90, who can have the empy weapons and +2 gear and ppl have turned into savages to get there in some cases. Worse than before. You can tell by the sheer amount of trolling, fighting and taunting in /sh and now unfortunately /yells that this game is going into the crapper /sigh and it was such a good game before they gimped it

Hatee to break it to you but thats what all mmos are like. What really change was you made it to endgame and told you needed XYZ jobs fully merited to get into the good LSes, that got claim on HNMs cleared zones could clear other content. Rose tinted glasses since you were to new to know you were getting the short end of the stick with all the chatting. Maybe people you met in exp might help you get into a decent endgame shell but that was beyond rare.

With the insane low drop rates and pay to play events pugs were out for 95% of events in the game. Not till ToAU did we get events that were pug friendly, assults and to a lesser extent nysul.

[Cream_Soda]

It was fun the first time, tedious the second, outright boring after that. Can only have so much fun before you're burned out on grinding. I can make friends and talk doing things other than lv grind

[Zyeriis]

Hatee to break it to you but thats what all mmos are like. What really change was you made it to endgame and told you needed XYZ jobs fully merited to get into the good LSes, that got claim on HNMs cleared zones could clear other content. Rose tinted glasses since you were to new to know you were getting the short end of the stick with all the chatting. Maybe people you met in exp might help you get into a decent endgame shell but that was beyond rare.

With the insane low drop rates and pay to play events pugs were out for 95% of events in the game. Not till ToAU did we get events that were pug friendly, assults and to a lesser extent nysul.

Hurray, the boring "if you have good memories of the game pre-abyssea, you're wearing rose tinted glasses" retarded spew. Obvious, equally idiotic and obligatory counter: "If you don't have good memories of the game pre-abyssea, you must be wearing black tinted bear goggles".

Also lol @ waiting days for parties pre-abyssea, it's no one's fault that you were an idiot and either A) didn't know how to form parties, B) decided that if you couldn't do A) then you couldn't do anything else and are now trying to use your inability to be semi-intelligent about your time spent in-game, or C) it's a massive exaggeration to make things seem worse than they actually were (except for HNM-esqe "content", which is still prevalent, even inside abyssea, just at much faster pace) or D) All of the above.

See, I can spin and twist perceptions to fit my potentially and equally ridiculous-sounding argument too! Did you see the part where I made blind assumptions about people with your point of view and tried to use them as facts, just like you?