Manifesto for cor

[Alhanelem]

Though it’s tied to luck, the effect when Wildcard hits is really big, so we do not have plans of trying to top this.

I don't think they want it to be "topped," just different- that is, resetting 2-hours shouldn't be the only possible effect that is regarded as useful. Few people actually use wild card like a real 2-hour. Mostly people just try to reset people's 2hours in towns for gil.

[Alhanelem]

(I had to pay 30k gil for ONE Oberon's Bullet. Not a stack of bullets, but one single bullet)

There's really no reason for this. They don't cost nearly that much to make. The problem is the crafts required, only a handful of people can easily make them, so they choose to capitalize on this and sell them one bullet at a time (even though they're crafted 33 at a time). This is a player problem, not a game problem.

[SpankWustler]

There's really no reason for this. They don't cost nearly that much to make. The problem is the crafts required, only a handful of people can easily make them, so they choose to capitalize on this and sell them one bullet at a time (even though they're crafted 33 at a time). This is a player problem, not a game problem.

If you're only referring to the cost, you make a good point. If you're referring to the larger problem that is availability, you're a bit off.

I seriously doubt that the player-base is responsible for Fool's Gold Ore only dropping as a Campaign Union spoil, however. If we are, we should really stop shoving that Fool's Gold Ore back into the corpses of whatever is dropping it. It's just not economically sound!

Don't try to hide it under that mining point after digging it up, either! Yeah, you! I see you!

[Frost]

I've asked before, but is it possible to get more Quickshot Charges please?

[Malamasala]

If we were to organize all the pet enhancing effect rolls into one, each effect would have to become weaker. We believe it would be better to make adjustments to the effects so that you can choose the appropriate roll depending on the situation.

Go back and tell them that in a mixed part rolling chaos roll gives +attack to 4 melee, and beast roll gives +attack to 1 pet, meaning pet rolls are already in normal situations 25% the potency of normal rolls. Claiming it needs to be weakened for becoming 75% as good as other rolls with being 3 in one is just ignorance from developers who have no connection to how the game is actually played.

And offtopic (which we already have a moderator complaining about so who knows what happens to this post), it seems rather silly that SMN has 1 merit for macc, 1 merit for mab, 1 merit for acc and 1 merit for attack, while PUP has 1 merit for macc/mab and 1 merit for acc/attack. If there was any kind of "if combining, we need to make it weaker", then you need to re-address PUP merits and weaken them. But personally I think putting multiple things on the same thing works fine. Double stats on PUP merits is fine, double stats should have been on SMN merits, and double/triple pet buffs should be on one roll.

The only balance issues here is if someone goes 1 COR 5 PUPs. And I'll tell you when that miracle happens.

[noodles355]

Go back and tell them that in a mixed part rolling chaos roll gives +attack to 4 melee, and beast roll gives +attack to 1 pet, meaning pet rolls are already in normal situations 25% the potency of normal rolls. Claiming it needs to be weakened for becoming 75% as good as other rolls with being 3 in one is just ignorance from developers who have no connection to how the game is actually played.

Devil's advocate: Full Summoner parties.

[Malamasala]

Devil's advocate: Full Summoner parties.

Counter Devil's advocate: How many make Full Summoner parties with a COR rolling pet MAB now? Because it wouldn't be stronger than that with 75 pacts, and not stronger than a full Summoner party rolling acc/att rolls today for 70 pacts.

Only thing this overpowers, is that CORs only have to roll 1 instead of 2 buffs. (Will be 2 in a SMN party since you'd roll evokers. Would be 1 in a BST or PUP party because they don't want refresh)

[Wolfandre]

And offtopic (which we already have a moderator complaining about so who knows what happens to this post), it seems rather silly that SMN has 1 merit for macc, 1 merit for mab, 1 merit for acc and 1 merit for attack, while PUP has 1 merit for macc/mab and 1 merit for acc/attack. If there was any kind of "if combining, we need to make it weaker", then you need to re-address PUP merits and weaken them. But personally I think putting multiple things on the same thing works fine. Double stats on PUP merits is fine, double stats should have been on SMN merits, and double/triple pet buffs should be on one roll.

The only balance issues here is if someone goes 1 COR 5 PUPs. And I'll tell you when that miracle happens.

Hello everyone. I have graced the Cor Manifesto page with my first official forums post! Huzzah!

Ok. Down to business. Did PUP really just get asked to be nerfed? Again? And in the COR forums?! What?! I can let you think about balance issues for a second...Let's take into account that SMN has full control over their pet's huge damaging abilities (see: Predator Claw) while all PUP can do is 'suggest' that the automaton nuke. And it won't even be a good one unless we nuke it with Ice Maneuvers and stack on Pet gear (which never does ANYTHING for the master, save AF3), thus pulling away from the master's damage potential. I don't see nerfing PUP merits as the solution to your COR problems...

Now, just so I'm not moderated into oblivion, I'd love to comment about COR.
I'm not huge into COR, personally. It's more like a side project for me. As it stands, however, I never get into events because I'm not a Wildfire COR. I think what we really need, along with many of the suggestions mentioned in this thread, is something for the players to stop and want COR for events. Frequently I get 'No COR we have atma. Come RDM and heal.' Which just makes me QQ all over the place. When it comes to Abyssea, if you ain't Wildfire-ing, you ain't COR. Now, I'm probably not the only one this happens to, but certainly not within a minority. However, I can think of no solution to this problem that isn't overly game breaking...Maybe letting us Dual Wield Great Katanas? I dunno...

I would love enfeebles on Quick Draw, but I also agree with the notion that if the other elements are getting them, Light Shot and Dark Shot should have damage. It only makes sense. And Karb said it perfectly: Sleep Bolts can do it, why can't a JA?

[Seha]

Tenuto YES! QD enfeebling good!
But god please consider in your upcoming revamp of the merit system to raise the recast merits for PR and QD to 5 seconds per upgrade! <_<

And I still want Bounty shot and Triple shot inverted! >_>

[Quetzacoatl]

Tenuto YES! QD enfeebling good!
But god please consider in your upcoming revamp of the merit system to raise the recast merits for PR and QD to 5 seconds per upgrade! <_<

And I still want Bounty shot and Triple shot inverted! >_>

First paragraph I agree with. RNG getting Triple Shot would be stupid, though- they're fine without it as is.