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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    you are. You want an event that the whole server has acess to to adapt your play style
    No, I don't. I want an event that the whole server has access to to be accessible to everyone. The event isn't being "adapted to (anyone)'s play style." it's opening itself up to allplaystyles by removing an unnecessary and limiting restriction. I'm not asking for any assault or salvage area itself to be changed in any way shape or form. If I said "Make all assaults winnable solo, and make all salvage bosses and NMs beatable solo", That would be adapting the event to a playstyle. But that's not what I'm asking for. I'm asking for things that I already can and do solo by wasting a few minutes of a friend's time to get inside to eliminate that step of having to drag someone who doesn't want to be there into it. I'm not asking for any assault to be modified in any way. ALL I'm asking for is for the minimum party size to be removed.

    I'm totally convinced that you're arguing against this just for entertainment value, because there is no good reason not to do this. It has no negative effects on anyone and helps a lot of people.

    I really can't say it much better than this.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dauntless
    Having the option to do something solo does not mean that everyone will be able to solo.
    (It also doesn't mean that everyone will attempt to solo it)

    Implementing this is really a simple matter of changing some "3" somewhere to a "1" and changing any relevant NPC dialog stating the party size requirements.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 07-25-2011 at 03:20 PM.

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    The most representative part of your post is "ask two friends to waste 5 minutes".
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    why are you guys acting like SE makes sense? they made dynamis more accessible, they didnt lower the amount of players needed to enter. they just made Relic weapons easier to get so that you didn't need to run an LS to get one. IMO they didnt make the mobs any harder, they seem just as hard as they always were. All they did was take waiting out of the picture by letting everyone go in at once.

    Nyzul would be a million times better if you could solo it. I do remember looking for a party for hours back before Level Sync, but i dont care enough about Nyzul to shout that long for only 3-5 people who only need their base weapons. Everyone did their WG stuff back when WG was the place to shout, no one wants to keep helping with it. It only takes an hour to climb 20floors but it takes 5 hours to get people to go. That's a problem.

    SE did already announce to update stuff like salvage though so we can only hope they give people reason to help us finish Nyzul again. At least im almost done with Almace :P
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    The most representative part of your post is "ask two friends to waste 5 minutes".
    True- Technically it's also a waste of my 5-20 minutes too, because I don't really find it that fun, it's more a matter of need.

    With friends, I'd rather do something that everyone wants to do than something only I want to do.
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    I agree with the OP. I don't care about Nyzul anymore, but if someone wants to go in solo, let them, why not? If you want to go with friends, go with friends. That event is no longer relevant enough to keep it on restricted entry. Might actually help people who want collect weapons, tokens or have a shot on climbing floors if they feel like it. And if you bring up lamp floors issue, getting no-magic or no-WS floors or Capricious Cassie/flyers was the same game ender at times for 3+ parties, yet noone really complained.
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    Would like to get some dev feedback on whether or not this would be happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dauntless View Post
    Would like to get some dev feedback on whether or not this would be happening.
    Making it solo would be highly doubtful as it would require "rebuilding" a system that was designed for 3 and up. Concider what would happen if you went in solo. What if you got a floor where you're main trait was restricted? What about lamp floors? True they already scale to the number of party members, but you'd have to assume that it bottoms out at 3 and changing that is a lot of work.
    Besides SE already said that they were looking into reworking entry for TAU events. Which will probably come around the time they introduce the synergy augments for the TAU gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    We understood your point. You want to play an MMO in a little bubble. Interaction between players is what makes the game work
    You really aren't understanding him at all. Everyone else does.

    Why should he ask for help with an assault and then help them back with another assault? Maybe his friends don't want to do any assaults. Maybe they roll their eyes and grind their teeth at the thought of assault due to years of doing it for Salvage.

    Point in case, yes, he can help them with anything they need help with in exchange for helping him enter Assault. However, why should anyone be forced to ask for help when they clearly do not need the help? His skills are high enough to solo the material, there's no reason for the game to force him to beg for help.

    What if his friends had wanted their tag for Nyzul Isle? We only get one a day.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    The ability to enter assault solo is not an assault only problem. If they limited the entry to 3 there is a reason. The reason is that they want to buff salvage and nyzul and don't want to eventually flood the market of alexandrite (probably).
    Assault drops Alexandrite?

    I'm assuming Square Enix didn't want to flood the market of relic currency either, but look at Neo-Dynamis.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    Even abyssea can not be soloed.
    Brews, what?
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Making it solo would be highly doubtful as it would require "rebuilding" a system that was designed for 3 and up.
    No, it wouldn't. None of us are asking for any assault or salvage to be redesigned to accomodate solo play. We are only asking that we be able to attempt them with the number of people we want. whether that's the full party of 6 or just one or two. I'm perfectly fine with this or that assault being too hard for one or two people. But by golly, if I feel like finding that out the hard way, that should be my choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji View Post
    Making it solo would be highly doubtful as it would require "rebuilding" a system that was designed for 3 and up. Concider what would happen if you went in solo. What if you got a floor where you're main trait was restricted? What about lamp floors? True they already scale to the number of party members, but you'd have to assume that it bottoms out at 3 and changing that is a lot of work.
    Besides SE already said that they were looking into reworking entry for TAU events. Which will probably come around the time they introduce the synergy augments for the TAU gear.
    If they can scale lamp floors from 6 to 3, why can't it scale to 2, or 1? Don't particularly see the issue. If you go into a floor solo and they restrict the thing that you need to win the floor, then that's a risk that you accepted when you entered the floor alone and you just have to accept it and try again.
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