Abyssea shouldn't be extended, honestly.

[Ravenmore]

Nothing is stoping you from doing the challenge. Your being elitest by saying only the skilled should control the drops since thats all it would come down to. Any half away decent group can kill every single NM in abyssea with out brews. Wouldn't do anything about the unclean still getting the same gear your so proud of. You are measuring your own worth the same way the botters did at old ground. No one beside you care how you got your gear.

With old endgame you didn't know for sure if that sam in you exp party bought his kitty pants or did sky to get them, or if that mnk just sat at a ground camp and bought the BB items, or the war got e.body that same way.

Nothing can take away the way you got the item, and no one really gives a crap either but the elitest that use gear to mesure them self agienst other people. You know you didn't kill rani with a brew or can kill him with out a brew. Anymore if they can follow directions I don't care what they have since thats what endgame has always been about.

[Sparthos]

Nothing is stoping you from doing the challenge. Your being elitest by saying only the skilled should control the drops since thats all it would come down to. Any half away decent group can kill every single NM in abyssea with out brews. Wouldn't do anything about the unclean still getting the same gear your so proud of. You are measuring your own worth the same way the botters did at old ground. No one beside you care how you got your gear.

With old endgame you didn't know for sure if that sam in you exp party bought his kitty pants or did sky to get them, or if that mnk just sat at a ground camp and bought the BB items, or the war got e.body that same way.

Nothing can take away the way you got the item, and no one really gives a crap either but the elitest that use gear to mesure them self agienst other people. You know you didn't kill rani with a brew or can kill him with out a brew. Anymore if they can follow directions I don't care what they have since thats what endgame has always been about.

Here we go with the self-righteous nonsense.

I don't see what problem there is with putting certain pieces of gear on the rare tier so long as patches provide enough normal gear able to be obtained by the masses.

I have no problem with +2s being obtainable by anyone but certain pieces should be rare because they provide something to work towards in the long term.

This could be an item acquired by doing obscene levels of questing, something through TOTM or simply a rare drop from an event that spits out alot of good gear but has some rare drops that spice up the pool. There are many creative ways to go about rewarding a player for playing XI.

Instead of going straight for the lazy response that im an elitist that wants to control drops understand that I feel that when everyone is the same, things get boring. Everyones in Port Jeuno rocking their 2nd, 3rd and 5th Emps with +2s bleeding out the ears right now because getting gear is more like a checklist now.

Good for them.

I dont care for world spawns or any of the old silliness moreso than something you get for going above and beyond the baseline. If you beat all BC40s? You get a reward. Beat all BCNMs? Uber Reward. All KS99s? Reward.

That's more of a challenge. Something you can't avoid with an easy button and gives everyone and equal shot at completing.

[hiko]

Also if you anti abyssea people want harder content, nobody force you to equip atma in abyssea.

fixed that for you

[Ravenmore]

Still using gear for a measure your self and other. Why do you care if someone got something you have. Gear has always been a check list.

[Zyeriis]

Still using gear for a measure your self and other. Why do you care if someone got something you have. Gear has always been a check list.

Why do you care that some one has something that you don't have?

[MarkovChain]

Still using gear for a measure your self and other. Why do you care if someone got something you have. Gear has always been a check list.

Nonsense.
1/ Why do you care if someone has gear that you don't have ? Looking at you pro abyssean.
2/ this game is entirely based on gear. Proof is that the reasons most of you like abyssea is that you can get the gear this time.

[Karbuncle]

Nonsense.
1/ Why do you care if someone has gear that you don't have ? Looking at you pro abyssean.
2/ this game is entirely based on gear. Proof is that the reasons most of you like abyssea is that you can get the gear this time.

I happen to like abyssea because its easier for me and my friends to get together and do something, It was an enjoyable event we could do at the spur of the moment and accomplish things. We did this before Abyssea, But abyssea really made it more accessible to us.

It made the game a bit more fun to play in my eyes. It took the grind out of it. I could care less if someone has armor i don't. If i want an armor bad enough I'll get it, no matter what that means, with determination and Effort, Rather its effort in farming the gil to buy it, or effort in going to the event/camping it.

Some people like Abyssea for the wrong reasons, It doesn't make Abyssea a bad event, or a bad zone collaboration. It was absolutely awesome to me, and many like me.

I unlike some of those pro-abyssea people, Would not mind if Content became more difficult, Only that they at least keep an aspect, a small portion of events, Low-man Friendly, Like Salvage was, or Nyzul, those events required less than 7 people.

The more i think about it the more i find myself looking away from alliance wide Content, Because the fun in that is usually hindered by the fact unless you were in a large LS, you were stuck shouting for people, and 99% of people found through Shoutting were garbage-tear turds who couldn't find their job ability menu without you holding their hand through the process. So what should be a rewarding, challenging, alliance fight becomes a tedious wading through hell with 17 people who couldn't co-operate their way out of a swimming pool, let alone do an event reasonably.

But i'm getting ahead of myself. I as much as most people look forward to out-of-Abyssea content, I loved abyssea to death, But I'm not sad its over, I was happy to be along for the ride.

This is all of course my point of view, and might not mirror opinions of other "Pro-abyssea" People.

[RabidSquirrel]

To be honest, I (a thief) have had a lot fun randomly duoing NMs with my black mage buddy. We just look up who can drop what, be it seals, +2 items, or equipment, and go try it out. And if he's not online, I'd go and try soloing whatever I felt like. Just to do it. Even if it's probably not going to end well (like soloing Warbler in aurore gear). And you know what? I can't really remember having as much fun with anything else in the game.

[Juri_Licious]

I'm honestly just tired of the whole buff up on steroids system part of Abyssea.
If you say "You don't have to use Atma", the area was designed for you to use Atma so you really expect someone to play this area with out Atma? Horrible point.

I just want a new area where it's based off your actual stats/skills other than Super Saiyan 3.
Also, no more Procs. As I stated before there is already a huge Abyssea selection so people don't need to get all pissed off if the next area they add isn't Abyssea.

[Raxiaz]

No more procs? Are you ****ing daft? The proc system is probably the second best thing SE has added to the game alongside abyssea. If anything, keep the proc system around, but in future events don't make it similar to Abyssea nor Dynamis. Change it up for every event.