NON-Clk'N'Buy Alternative route

[Wo1verine]

So after reading all these complaints about Click'N'Buy, I did a little online background check. Short version: will NOT be using Click'n'Buy, so... whats my alternative?

I went to the new square enix account page and selected option to add Crysta, asked for options "Clk'nBy" or "Ultimate" choose 2nd option.

Then it just let me use PayPal to add crysta thru the 2nd "Ultimate" option. Takes about 30 seconds if you already have a PayPal acct.

If you do not wish to use paypal for some reason, they let you pay direct with your credit card at that point also if you want.

For people who want to avoid a 3rd party agreement completely:

Use path: "Add Crysta" > "UltimatePay" > "PayPal" > "PayPal option 2"


The main drawback I see here is having to actually manually add Crysta every so often.

I am in US so not 100% sure if this will work for everyone.

I did not (will not) read through every post in the 1000 post thread of people complaining about clink'n'buy, so If this info is in there somewhere great~ I am just hoping to bring it to the foreground and maybe help someone from making the mistake of thinking they NEED to use Click'N'Buy, and then actually signing up for that additional service.

[Jer]

I bought the Ultimate Game card at a Drugstore (seems fitting lol) for $20. Actually, my first stop did not have it, so I had to make two stops. Once I got home entering the info was pretty straightforward, but this all seems like a pathetic way to treat customers who have been customers for YEARS.

[Wo1verine]

but this all seems like a pathetic way to treat customers who have been customers for YEARS.

Yeah I am not going to debate that, it is annoying after all this time for sure.
I play this game for leisure, have since Zilart was released, and when I saw that I had to actually spend some of my cherished free time doing something for FFXI other than playing it, I was put off.
Luckily for me I found the process very quick and painless.

[Selzak]

So after reading all these complaints about Click'N'Buy, I did a little online background check. Short version: will NOT be using Click'n'Buy, so... whats my alternative?

I went to the new square enix account page and selected option to add Crysta, asked for options "Clk'nBy" or "Ultimate" choose 2nd option.

Then it just let me use PayPal to add crysta thru the 2nd "Ultimate" option. Takes about 30 seconds if you already have a PayPal acct.

If you do not wish to use paypal for some reason, they let you pay direct with your credit card at that point also if you want.

The main drawback I see here is having to actually manually add Crysta every so often.

I am in US so not 100% sure if this will work for everyone.

I did not read through the 100 post thread of people complaining about clink'n'buy, so If this info is in there somewhere great~ I am just hoping to bring it to the foreground and maybe help someone from making the mistake of thinking they NEED to use Click'N'Buy, and then actually signing up for that additional service.

On a better forum, you would be banned for this thread.

I don't think that there is one single person who was unaware of the information that you just posted. Problem is, Crysta can not be bought in exact amounts and leads to overpaying just like Click and Buy does.

[Wo1verine]

On a better forum, you would be banned for this thread.

I don't think that there is one single person who was unaware of the information that you just posted. Problem is, Crysta can not be bought in exact amounts and leads to overpaying just like Click and Buy does.

If only this were true.
I have seen countless complaints and yammering about this, both in game shouts and multiple posts on this forum. People DO actually make the mistake of getting a Click'N'Buy account, or other various 3rd party because they think it is the only option.

Simply trying to clarify that no 3rd party is necessary, just use your credit card.
For example if the 2nd poster on this thread had seen my OP, it would have saved him a 2 trips the drugstore, and taking time to signup for UltimatePay.

Maybe as we get closer to the end of the month this will change, but at the moment I am seeing more uniformed complaints than anything. (except trolling of course)

I made this thread to help people that are frustrated/confused over the new system, not for people who don't need help and just want to troll.

And ontop of it... you quote and BOLDED my disclaimer about that 1000 post thread of basically all trolls that no normal person would read though. Good Job! Way to miss the point completely!

I would be banned? Take it down a notch~

[RAIST]

They are upset because C&B is the ONLY way to straight pay with a credit card automatically each cycle. Crysta is a manual process, and requires you to shoot thorugh additional layers for payment as well.

Prior to this, everyone had an option to just enter information with SE and let SE handle it. Now they've injected more points of failure into the system. Before, if there were problems, it was SE billing system or the bank/CC issuer. Now, it is SE biling system, <insert 3rd party>, the bank/CC processor--if going the Crysta route, it can even inject an additional layer as well (SE billing, Crysta account, 3rd party, bank/CC processor).

The REAL issue with this is we were mislead into thinking we would still be able to pay directly with our CC's, which has been extended to ONLY the JP region while everyone else got the shaft.

[Selzak]

If only this were true.
I have seen countless complaints and yammering about this, both in game shouts and multiple posts on this forum. People DO actually make the mistake of getting a Click'N'Buy account, or other various 3rd party because they think it is the only option.

Simply trying to clarify that no 3rd party is necessary, just use your credit card.
For example if the 2nd poster on this thread had seen my OP, it would have saved him a 2 trips the drugstore, and taking time to signup for UltimatePay.

Maybe as we get closer to the end of the month this will change, but at the moment I am seeing more uniformed complaints than anything. (except trolling of course)

I made this thread to help people that are frustrated/confused over the new system, not for people who don't need help and just want to troll.

And ontop of it... you quote and BOLDED my disclaimer about that 1000 post thread of basically all trolls that no normal person would read though. Good Job! Way to miss the point completely!

I would be banned? Take it down a notch~

You don't even need to do stuff like read threads or use the search function, just use common sense. Do you really think that, after weeks of uproar, people do not understand their options? They do know the options, and apparently better than you. Did you know that you can't buy Crysta in exact amounts and are therefore overpaying with the excess that you are forced to buy in order to reach (and surpass) the correct amount to pay for your account?

People are upset because they can either do that (if it's available to them), or go through the shady Click and Buy- which we are now beginning to see charges transaction fees as well.

Also, yes, on a well-moderated board people are banned for popping in and shitting threads without taking into consideration the conversation already going on. I'm sorry if I sound a bit harsh, but people have been chiming in with "enlightening" information like clockwork since the issue sprung up and it's gotten to be really aggravating because you read something like, "I figured out a solution!" and it's something that's been brought up and shot down for two weeks straight. In this case, it's just an exceptionally ridiculous piece of information. I mean, really? You can't even pay without knowing this.

Also, yes you do need to use a third party. In the case of Crysta, you also have to use fake currency.

I'm also curious about the "online background check" that you performed to find this information despite not wanting to read what people are actually already saying. Was it the payment information thread stickied at the top of the board, detective Wo1verine?

[Wo1verine]

Also, yes you do need to use a third party. In the case of Crysta, you also have to use fake currency.

I'm also curious about the "online background check" that you performed to find this information despite not wanting to read what people are actually already saying. Was it the payment information thread stickied at the top of the board, detective?

Thanks Galka, let me clarify.

If you use the PayPal option they do not make you sign up for anything. As in, no 3rd party, no further steps needed.

Also its fairly easy find out through other web forums how bad of a reputation that particular Click'N'Buy people have.

Crysta sucks, wrong thread for that. Hate elsewhere please.

[RAIST]

Paying through Paypal is using a third party. Doesn't matter if you are creating accounts with mulitple sites or not--it is still sending your account info to a third party that simply should NOT be required, as evidenced by them not forcing it upon the JP players.

[Niyariko]

Basically what RAIST said, plus, not treating JP and NA/EU customers equally.

Japanese have the option to use Crysta and Direct Credit Card payment, NA/EU don't. Instead we are forced to use ClickandBuy if decided to use CC. We have been used to pay SE directly with CC for the past 8+ years, then suddenly they took it away except for the JP. At this point, I don't even wanna find out why SE decided to do this, just give us direct Credit Card payment back, please.