How badly is Fishing broken?

[Octaviane]

I just conducted an experiment, here are the results.

Started out this morning on the mule I wanted to try fishing on that is level 34 and almost 1 year old, same result as yesterday. "you didn't catch anything."

Sent Halcyon Rod and bait to second Mule, that has level 14 fishing skill, job level 24 and 4 years old character. Hasn't fished in 10 months or so. I fished normally in Port Sandy, catching 5 Moat Carp, 10 Crayfish, 2 Tri-Colored Carp, 1 Gold Carp and 1 pair of Rusty Leggings. I even changed jobs to a level 6 from 24 and fished normally. At exactly the 30 minute mark of fishing I started receiving the message "you didn't catch anything." This was continuous from then on.

Sent Halycon Rod and remaining bait to Main Character, level 8 Fishing Skill, job level 90, over 5 years old character. Main has not fished since the days of bots. Fished normally in Bastok Markets, catching 6 Moat Carp, 7 Dark Bass, 3 Black Eel's and 4 pair of Rusty Leggings. No skill-ups received on catching fish. At exactly the 30 minute mark of fishing I started receiving the message "you didn't catch anything." Again continuous from that point on.

I would venture that something has changed drastically in Fishing at some point during the last 10 months when my mule that has level 14 Fishing Skill could fish for a long time on the Ferry Selbina/Mhaura catching Nebs and receive small skill-ups.

I am going to report these findings to SE and see what they say. I do remember that something was done to fishing in the last 4 months or so, but honestly did not read the details.

[Octaviane]

So, I did more research, found the Fishing adjustments made back in April and please read what I found. This was posted by Bumbeen who earlier in this thread insinuated that I was a bot. Guess his/her INT decreased since this post made in June and he/she wasn't calling anyone a bot then.

"You only get 20+ didn't catch anythings in a row when you've hit fatigue cap.

Also fish are catchable on timers, or windows, there's no gear that can bypass a string of you didn't catch anything, it isn't just bad luck. Everyone fishing the same type of fish all are simultaneously unable to catch that fish when the window is closed.

Also, it only takes about 3 hours to hit fatigue cap in talacca cove with lu shang and lv90+ fishing.

Obviously they could make the windows smaller, like 1 minute on 1 minute off instead of 5 on 5 off. "

So, the answer to my question, at least on one mule and main is I hit fatigue cap after 30 minutes with level 14 and 8 Fishing skill respectively. Still no reason for me to NOT be able to fish on my other mule.

[Runespider]

I am not a bot. Why do people think that everyone is a cheat or a bot? Same applies to you as it does to Bumbeen. Don't assume that some one is cheating unless you have proof positive.

"Vast majority" doesn't mean everyone it means most.

[Rie]

If you pay attention to the messages, you can tell if it's an item, fish or monster.

You don't need a bot to distinguish between them very easily.

[Bumbeen]

The only reason you would catch any rusty items is if you were botting it. Ever since the last fishing update, I haven't caught one. single. rusty. item.


Despite that though, on your main character, how many "you didn't catch anythings" do you mean by continuous? If it's more than 20, you need to wait longer before you reel in the fish, there is an anti-bot measure that detects if you're catching them too fast and nerfs your catches for the entire day.

[Octaviane]

The only reason you would catch any rusty items is if you were botting it. Ever since the last fishing update, I haven't caught one. single. rusty. item.


Despite that though, on your main character, how many "you didn't catch anythings" do you mean by continuous? If it's more than 20, you need to wait longer before you reel in the fish, there is an anti-bot measure that detects if you're catching them too fast and nerfs your catches for the entire day.

None until the 30 minute fishing mark, then 20 + in a row on both Main and mule. Can you not read and understand my postings? That is what I said. Able to fish normally until 30 minute mark of fishing then 20+ "you didn't catch anything." I would also say that my catches weren't anything out of the ordinary either on any of the 2 characters I was able to fish on.

Again I will advise strongly that you do not assume people are bots and cheats because they are catching "rusty items." Do not accuse or intimate such until or unless you can provide concrete evidence. You haven't been able to do so thus far and I have shot your own theory down using your own post against you on the subject. Check my posts for the fishing levels on all characters and tell me that I do not have a chance at low levels of catching Rusty items.

So ruminate on this now please.

An update! Today, able to fish NORMALLY on the mule I wasn't able to fish on for 2 days in a row, except for a few minutes the first day. The ONLY thing different today is mule is 1 level higher, level 35. I fished until my bait was gone, almost 1 hour and caught the following in Bastok Markets.........19 Moat Carp, 11 Dark Bass, 1 Rusty Bucket, 5 Pairs of Rusty Leggings, and 1 gil. Fishing skill now level 1.1.............no Fatigue at 30 minutes, at most 4 or 5 "You didn't catch anything" messages.

I now have the 10 pair of Rusty Leggings needed for the Quest "Like Shining Leggings", which was part of my purpose, and also to see if it would be worth starting Cooking to make not only my own food but fishing bait as well. Granted, Rusty Leggings are only 100 gil on the AH, but I like the hunt thank you and I will most certainly be going after Rusty Subligar since they are 5k each on the AH.

[Dragoy]

Check my posts for the fishing levels on all characters and tell me that I do not have a chance at low levels of catching Rusty items.

I think what the player meant was that normally people would cancel those 'un-wanted' items and not reel them up, completely missing the point that you actually wanted them.

Or so it seemed to me, at least. ^^;


Anyways, good to see you seem to have gotten past the issue, what ever it was. Though it would be great to know exactly what was going on. I personally don't remember noticing anything like this while going up to 40+ fishing skill (and no, I don't cheat either, though I know we are a rarity!)
I did not really do fishing after the latest tweaks that were done to the system, only went for a few fishy for an Altana quest, but that didn't take long at all so can't say I've been fishing yet.


I sort of do want to now, for some reason...

[Kimble]

What is your drop rate on getting one of those rings though? I doubt its very high. SO while you CAN make a good lump some getting lucky to get a ring to sale, thats not going to be the main, constant moneymaker for you.

[Atomic_Skull]

What is your drop rate on getting one of those rings though? I doubt its very high. SO while you CAN make a good lump some getting lucky to get a ring to sale, thats not going to be the main, constant moneymaker for you.

Drop rate from Zaldon on the Noddy ring is actually not bad, certainly not like Opal silk or anything like that. And the bugs are ridiculously easy to catch at 100 fishing.