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    Quote Originally Posted by Tagrineth View Post
    And that's all before even considering the actual Melee jobs' exclusive gear (SMN maxes out at 23 haste from gear, EVERY dedicated melee can hit 26 comfortably alongside other relevant stats) and job abilities/traits which can't be subbed.
    SMN gets its CHOICE of: 15% Haste, 30-50 Acc, 30 Att, 22 MAB (Cata), 24% DA, ??% Crit Rate

    No subjob, not counting any gear. I consider all of these to be relevant melee stats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    SMN gets its CHOICE of: 15% Haste, 30-50 Acc, 30 Att, 22 MAB (Cata), 24% DA, ??% Crit Rate

    No subjob, not counting any gear. I consider all of these to be relevant melee stats.

    Yet even with all those at a SMN's disposal(forgetting the fact they're party buffs), you can only manage a fraction of a DD's damage.
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    1. Mystics who conjure avatars to fight by their sides, then sit back and enjoy the show while paying close attention to their MP as their minions deliver devastating blows to adversaries and provide aid to allies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razushu View Post
    Yet even with all those at a SMN's disposal(forgetting the fact they're party buffs), you can only manage a fraction of a DD's damage.
    LOL. I know you know of the buffs Raz. Everyone told you to level BRD when you told them that cycling them is a good use of a party slot. Do you honestly believe, based on Tag's post, that he has no knowledge of SMN's buffs? Or, do you agree with me, that he is purposely ignoring them like so many people seem to do?

    Yes, they are party buffs, meaning they are more powerful than just job traits. Chances that anti-melee will admit that? I'm guessing zero.

    Voidwatch released a lot of armor with Spheres, party buffs that DON'T buff the wearer. Everything that SMN does works better than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    LOL. I know you know of the buffs Raz. Everyone told you to level BRD when you told them that cycling them is a good use of a party slot. Do you honestly believe, based on Tag's post, that he has no knowledge of SMN's buffs? Or, do you agree with me, that he is purposely ignoring them like so many people seem to do?

    Yes, they are party buffs, meaning they are more powerful than just job traits. Chances that anti-melee will admit that? I'm guessing zero.

    Voidwatch released a lot of armor with Spheres, party buffs that DON'T buff the wearer. Everything that SMN does works better than that.
    I thought you only played with BSTs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonlionheart View Post
    I thought you only played with BSTs?
    And Korpg thinks I claim to outdamage Ukon WAR.
    And Raz thinks I die against everything I fight.
    And GG thinks every WAR has been surgically attached to a DNC, WHM, and BRD in some sort of human centipede.

    People think stupid things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    And Korpg thinks I claim to outdamage Ukon WAR.
    And Raz thinks I die against everything I fight.
    And GG thinks every WAR has been surgically attached to a DNC, WHM, and BRD in some sort of human centipede.

    People think stupid things.
    Stop comparing yourself to real DDs, at all, and this issue won't arise.
    IDK how much you die, but if you play with BSTs I doubt you would die often, since it would destroy the purpose of pet burning if you were meleeing lolol.
    My WAR did have a surgically attached DNC, WHM, and BRD for about 2 months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonlionheart View Post
    Stop comparing yourself to real DDs, at all, and this issue won't arise.
    That was GG, not me. It's all a big fat lie told by Korpg. The WAR butthurt is real.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    And Korpg thinks I claim to outdamage Ukon WAR.
    Didn't you claim that your staff is only 7.5% DoT damage less than an Ukon? Without avatar damage included, basically meaning that you outdamage an Ukon? Why, yes you did
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