Job Vision: Watch paint dry

[Karbuncle]

Wouldn't it theoretically be possible to perform your backline duties (Curing, -na's, Etc) on some mobs while still Meleeing? I mean, Typical Exp Mob A) Dies at decent past, no Silence-AoEs, No horrible AoEs period, Isn't it still possible in that situation to melee and perform your backline tasks, without running of dying/etc?

Meh, whats his name has been saying this so its more or less talking in circles. I think what i'm trying to say is you can do both, But i truly agree Razushu, In reality its more about convincing your party your damage is worth it (really in an exp alliance who cares). Outside of exp though i can't speak on it.

I'd like to run a Melee-SMN parse like someone did a Melee-RDM parse in that one thread, just to truly see where it stands. You would have to count the Avatar, to be frank its a part of the job, just like Automatons to PUPs, and Jugs to BSTs!

[Razushu]

Wouldn't it theoretically be possible to perform your backline duties (Curing, -na's, Etc) on some mobs while still Meleeing? I mean, Typical Exp Mob A) Dies at decent past, no Silence-AoEs, No horrible AoEs period, Isn't it still possible in that situation to melee and perform your backline tasks, without running of dying/etc?

Meh, whats his name has been saying this so its more or less talking in circles. I think what i'm trying to say is you can do both, But i truly agree Razushu, In reality its more about convincing your party your damage is worth it (really in an exp alliance who cares). Outside of exp though i can't speak on it.

I'd like to run a Melee-SMN parse like someone did a Melee-RDM parse in that one thread, just to truly see where it stands. You would have to count the Avatar, to be frank its a part of the job, just like Automatons to PUPs, and Jugs to BSTs!

Yes and BSTs and PUPs both also have to prove themselves to be good frontline DDs before pets are counted. They are invited to groups as DDs because the master is also a good source of damage, otherwise they would be backline only and use the pet to do the bulk of the work. Pets count as part of the job and are counted when deciding if the job is contributing well as a whole. But when deciding they're a worthwhile melee or not it's different, the master needs to perform well as a standalone melee.

[Karbuncle]

Yes and BSTs and PUPs both also have to prove themselves to be good frontline DDs before pets are counted. They are invited to groups as DDs because the master is also a good source of damage, otherwise they would be backline only and use the pet to do the bulk of the work. Pets count as part of the job and are counted when deciding if the job is contributing well as a whole. But when deciding they're a worthwhile melee or not it's different, the master needs to perform well as a standalone melee.

Its the reason i really wanna see how far back SMN stands through a parse or something similar. MATHS would work as well though

[Razushu]

Its the reason i really wanna see how far back SMN stands through a parse or something similar. MATHS would work as well though

That's fair enough, sorry I misunderstood your post.

Only maths I've seen on the subject puts a SMN melee at about 1/4 of a WAR.