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    Player Razushu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    Cure IV on one of 2 mage combinations that has no native Fast Cast: SMN/WHM, BLM/WHM. Worst cure whore ever.
    I know it's almost as bad as meleeing on the weakest class in the ga.....
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    Summoner [suhm-uhn-er]

    1. Mystics who conjure avatars to fight by their sides, then sit back and enjoy the show while paying close attention to their MP as their minions deliver devastating blows to adversaries and provide aid to allies.
    2. Not a melee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razushu View Post
    I know it's almost as bad as meleeing on the weakest class in the ga.....
    Thus the thread. "Watch paint dry". Because your alternatives is to be the worst healer or worst melee. And while I'd ask SE for a boost to any of these, I'm too afraid I'd get 100% cure potency boost and have to regret it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malamasala View Post
    Thus the thread. "Watch paint dry". Because your alternatives is to be the worst healer or worst melee. And while I'd ask SE for a boost to any of these, I'm too afraid I'd get 100% cure potency boost and have to regret it.
    How about, instead of focusing on what Summoner can not do, why not focus on what Summoner can do?

    Will it be a great melee? No. Was it intended to be a great melee? No.
    Will it be a great healer? No. Was it intended to be a great healer? No.

    It is a great solo job. It also provides a lot of damage for free TP feed. Why not focus on being an actual summoner instead of a melee mage or gimp healer?

    If you really want to be a melee, level WAR/DRK/DRG/MNK/SAM.

    If you really want to be a healer, level WHM/SCH/RDM.
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    Player Razushu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malamasala View Post
    Thus the thread. "Watch paint dry". Because your alternatives is to be the worst healer or worst melee. And while I'd ask SE for a boost to any of these, I'm too afraid I'd get 100% cure potency boost and have to regret it.
    But why ask SE to boost either of these? We're a pet mage, for the love of god ask them to buff our pets lol
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    Summoner [suhm-uhn-er]

    1. Mystics who conjure avatars to fight by their sides, then sit back and enjoy the show while paying close attention to their MP as their minions deliver devastating blows to adversaries and provide aid to allies.
    2. Not a melee

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    Meleeing as RDM, BLM, or SCH? No, much more pathetic than that. 23% haste (mage) versus 26% haste (melee) is much closer than Cure 4 is to Cure 6.
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    Player Razushu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    Meleeing as RDM, BLM, or SCH? No, much more pathetic than that. 23% haste (mage) versus 26% haste (melee) is much closer than Cure 4 is to Cure 6.
    I was talking about SMN, it's ok it's forgivable for you to forget it(seeing as you don't have it leveled). Outside Abyssea Cure IV does fine. There's lots more factors that go into making an effective melee than haste, if you ever level a job you'll learn this. Don't worry we were all new once.
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    Summoner [suhm-uhn-er]

    1. Mystics who conjure avatars to fight by their sides, then sit back and enjoy the show while paying close attention to their MP as their minions deliver devastating blows to adversaries and provide aid to allies.
    2. Not a melee

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    Player Leonlionheart's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    Meleeing as RDM, BLM, or SCH? No, much more pathetic than that. 23% haste (mage) versus 26% haste (melee) is much closer than Cure 4 is to Cure 6.
    RDM can cap haste, which is a big deal with marches. Although I agree, the difference between Cure IV and VI is just... well Cure VI is 300% better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonlionheart View Post
    RDM can cap haste, which is a big deal with marches. Although I agree, the difference between Cure IV and VI is just... well Cure VI is 300% better.
    RDM just starts so far behind... It's really embarassing. They are better than BLM or SCH for melee, but I can't even construct a scenario where RDM spells match an avatar's damage.
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    Player Razushu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    RDM just starts so far behind... It's really embarassing. They are better than BLM or SCH for melee, but I can't even construct a scenario where RDM spells match an avatar's damage.
    Why would you try match RDM spells and Avatar damage, when you're talking about melee?
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    Summoner [suhm-uhn-er]

    1. Mystics who conjure avatars to fight by their sides, then sit back and enjoy the show while paying close attention to their MP as their minions deliver devastating blows to adversaries and provide aid to allies.
    2. Not a melee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razushu View Post
    Why would you try match RDM spells and Avatar damage, when you're talking about melee?
    Damage is still damage. Your ignorance of hybrid jobs amazes me, especially since you've asked this question a dozen times.
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