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  1. #181
    Player Korpg's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malamasala View Post
    Remind me again why it is:

    If you want to play a real melee, change job.

    but not

    If you want to play a real healer, change job.


    Obviously you are just randomly picking your facts to create your own truth, when in fact melee and /WHM are two sides of the same coin.
    But it is like that. SMN is neither a melee job nor a healer. The best thing a SMN can do is solo. Second best? Deliver TP free damage, you don't even have to release the avatar to do that! Curing Status effects is probably the 4th or 5th best thing, curing HP is just below that, melee is dead bottom.

    I'm not saying that you can't do more than one thing at a time. In fact, it is very helpful to do TP free damage AND cure status effects AND help cure HP, much more than swinging a staff.
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  2. #182
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malamasala View Post
    It is if the monster has no paralyze.

    Might also add that you can swing a stick AND paralyna without any problem at all.
    Being paralyzed while trying to cast paralyna is a problem though.
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    Summoner [suhm-uhn-er]

    1. Mystics who conjure avatars to fight by their sides, then sit back and enjoy the show while paying close attention to their MP as their minions deliver devastating blows to adversaries and provide aid to allies.
    2. Not a melee

  3. #183
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Swinging a stick aint so useful, Paralyna is.
    Swinging a stick doesn't prevent you from casting Paralyna.

    I'm perfectly fine with people not liking the idea of melee, but the above isn't a valid reason. Having your weapon drawn does not in any way stop you from casting spells. Paladins do this all the time. Some people claim it's more difficult, but I don't find it more difficult at all.

    Being paralyzed while trying to cast paralyna is a problem though.
    Yes, but if you try to remove paralyna from yourself, that means the WHM or whoever else has it can focus on other people and not put any attention on you. This is why /WHM has good utility for the job even if you're not curing much of anything.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 07-25-2011 at 01:15 AM.

  4. #184
    Player Korpg's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Swinging a stick doesn't prevent you from casting Paralyna.
    It does when you go /SAM so you can swing the stick faster and more accurate.
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  5. #185
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    My SAM isn't even high enough to sub, so that's not a problem.
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  6. #186
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    I'm not saying that you can't do more than one thing at a time. In fact, it is very helpful to do TP free damage AND cure status effects AND help cure HP, much more than swinging a staff.
    I could compare it to DNC. While dealing damage + healing is useful, it isn't always I need to do both. Same with SMN. Sometimes I do not need to cure status effects or cure... should I only stand there and do TP free damage and watch paint dry? No, I'll go poke it with a stick so I have something fun to do.

    Do I always melee? No, sometimes I go post on these forums instead between pacts. Why heal if it isn't needed? Better to do something else.
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  7. #187
    Player Korpg's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    My SAM isn't even high enough to sub, so that's not a problem.
    No actual melee job leveled?
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  8. #188
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    PUP and DNC were my only "melee jobs" until recently I finished DRK. I have WAR and MNK in the 50s,
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  9. #189
    Player Korpg's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    PUP and DNC were my only "melee jobs" until recently I finished DRK. I have WAR and MNK in the 50s,
    Get SAM in your life, and you will wonder what in the heck you were missing from your life.
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  10. #190
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    Get SAM in your life, and you will wonder what in the heck you were missing from your life.
    SAM isn't a good sub for PUP and is only good for DNC because of meditate essentially being refresh for the job.
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