Job Vision: Watch paint dry

[Korpg]

How about you tell us what mobs you have melee'd solo.

[Alaik]

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/top.../060330_2.html

Bottom of the page. Unless there was some release I have never saw they never said you guys were getting 2 avatars before this CaitSith and Atomos. Thinking of =! We will. I'm really not sure why SMNs were always up in arms about this.

What gets me is the "We were promised 2 new avatars and didn't get them for 2 years!" is so prominent when the big lie in that post had nothing to do with SMN at all.

[Korpg]

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/top.../060330_2.html

Bottom of the page. Unless there was some release I have never saw they never said you guys were getting 2 avatars before this CaitSith and Atomos. Thinking of =! We will. I'm really not sure why SMNs were always up in arms about this.

What gets me is the "We were promised 2 new avatars and didn't get them for 2 years!" is so prominent when the big lie in that post had nothing to do with SMN at all.

Not sure if I understand you. Can you repost or edit your post to be more understandable please?

[Razushu]

Not sure if I understand you. Can you repost or edit your post to be more understandable please?

I think he's saying that SE never promised us new avatars in '06 or even before they said they're giving us Cait Sith & Atomos, and wondering why SMNs were always so vocal about not getting "promised" avatars for so long.

He may be implying that the "where's our new avatars" discussions that went on for years was silly, and there was a lie somewhere in that post. I really can't be sure however.

[Concerned4FFxi]

i luv smn but shorting bp is too much, i wouldnt mind having each avatars bp set, this would make changing avatars dangerous if not properly buffed so that you can swicth and bp with that new avatart so this to me would be fair as theres a point that you'll have to reapply buffs before you release/summon/bp a new one.

[Malamasala]

Unless you have a DNC for 10% delay reduction and they don't want en-spells ruining it.

[Karbuncle]

Unless you have a DNC for 10% delay reduction and they don't want en-spells ruining it.

Except a DNC isn't required to cap haste =.=a. (I think!)

With Dual Wield being considered in the absolute Delay Reduction, Jobs like NIN, THF, and DNC (ones described) in reality only need about... I can't remember the exact number, But 25% gear haste/+Spell+ Double March should cover that to cap their Delay Reduction, no DNC Required. (This isn't even including Blitzers roll!)

I know Capped Haste from gear is 25% (26% is the Shown Number, You only get 25% in reality its just 26% is required in shown numbers because how its caculated... blah blah), 43% in magical.

That in itself is 68%, I think Dual Wield would cap the rest. This is of course excluding 2handed DD, minus DRK, who can cap JA haste with Desperate Blows.

[Leonlionheart]

Except a DNC isn't required to cap haste =.=a. (I think!)

I know Capped Haste from gear is 25% (26% is the Shown Number, You only get 25% in reality its just 26% is required in shown numbers because how its caculated... blah blah), 43% in magical.

That in itself is 68%, I think Dual Wield would cap the rest. This is of course excluding 2handed DD, minus DRK, who can cap JA haste with Desperate Blows.

I think DW would only cap it on NIN? I'm really confused as to how DW works in conjunction to haste, considering NIN's base trait is 35% (IIRC) and that with Gear Haste would be 60% already, making Haste get it to 75%. AF1 body is 5% DW, which would cap it.

However any NIN that's played with a BRD knows that March breaks your swing animations @_@

[Karbuncle]

I think DW would only cap it on NIN? I'm really confused as to how DW works in conjunction to haste, considering NIN's base trait is 35% (IIRC) and that with Gear Haste would be 60% already, making Haste get it to 75%. AF1 body is 5% DW, which would cap it.

However any NIN that's played with a BRD knows that March breaks your swing animations @_@

I'm confused on how Haste/Dual Wield interact as well, I do know they both count toward the 80% "Haste Cap" though, So with high Dual Wield you rarely need JA Haste throw in the mix, Even then theres Blitzers Roll for 1 handed DD, and Hasse/LR(DRK) for 2handed.

[Babekeke]

Except a DNC isn't required to cap haste =.=a. (I think!)

With Dual Wield being considered in the absolute Delay Reduction, Jobs like NIN, THF, and DNC (ones described) in reality only need about... I can't remember the exact number, But 25% gear haste/+Spell+ Double March should cover that to cap their Delay Reduction, no DNC Required. (This isn't even including Blitzers roll!)

I know Capped Haste from gear is 25% (26% is the Shown Number, You only get 25% in reality its just 26% is required in shown numbers because how its caculated... blah blah), 43% in magical.

That in itself is 68%, I think Dual Wield would cap the rest. This is of course excluding 2handed DD, minus DRK, who can cap JA haste with Desperate Blows.

I think DW would only cap it on NIN? I'm really confused as to how DW works in conjunction to haste, considering NIN's base trait is 35% (IIRC) and that with Gear Haste would be 60% already, making Haste get it to 75%. AF1 body is 5% DW, which would cap it.

However any NIN that's played with a BRD knows that March breaks your swing animations @_@

68% haste requires 37.5% DW (Edit: because they are multiplicative [you have to * them not + them])

69.3% (rounded) haste is required to cap at 35% DW (naked NIN)
71.5% (rounded) haste is required to cap at 30% DW (naked DNC)
73.333333333% haste is required to cap at 25% DW (naked /NIN)

The closer you get to cap, the less DW is affecting you. Magic cap + fully merited samba means there's no point in equipping any DW gear because you're already capped. regardless of 25% DW or 50% DW (not sure how much a NIN or DNC can actually achieve), however, drop the haste samba and a NIN only needs 2.5% DW to cap haste. DNC needs 7.5% and /NIN needs 12.5%.

The maths is in the Spoiler so as to not clutter the page up:

Decide on which you want to decide: DW or Haste (the one you don't already have a set value for)

In this instance I'll start with a known DW figure and show you how to work out how much haste you need to cap.

as /NIN you have 25% DW naked so we'll go with this.
% are shown as a decimal, so 25% = 0.25

x=your DW figure
a=the amount of haste you need
you can use exactly the same maths to work it out the other way round with x = your known haste if you want to work out DW required, which will than = a

1-x=y
1/y=z
z*0.2=b
1-b=a

so in our example:

1-0.25=0.75
1/0.75=1.3333333333etc
1.3r*0.2=0.2666666666etc (ending in a 7)
1-0.26r=0.73333333333etc

so, 73.3333333% haste required (74%)

Hope this helps you in the future. I had to read the haste thread on here for about 2 days to fully understand it *_*
So a big thanks to whomever it was that posted that info for me (and strangely, I thought LLH was one of them?!)