ATTN: Community Reps/Dev Team: PUPs of Vanadiel DEMAND a response on Automaton A.I.!

[Alhanelem]

You are purposely being dense just to piss people off, aren't you?

You're puprposely being offensive just to provoke me, aren't you?

1) I'm not being dense
2) I'm not trying to piss people off.

Read the part where I said "not ideal."

I killed EP cockatrice in Cape T to get crests for the limit breaks when they came out. I never once died because of silence (Largely because I used Valoredge instead and used role reversal, cannibal blade and repair to keep HP up), and I (and anyone else) can kill the cockatrice in abyssea no problem as well. There are ways around these difficulties.

Yes, solving the AI problem is the best solution. In the mean time, there are plenty of ways around the problem.

[Psion]

You're puprposely being offensive just to provoke me, aren't you?

1) I'm not being dense
2) I'm not trying to piss people off.

Read the part where I said "not ideal."

I killed EP cockatrice in Cape T to get crests for the limit breaks when they came out. I never once died because of silence (Largely because I used Valoredge instead and used role reversal, cannibal blade and repair to keep HP up), and I (and anyone else) can kill the cockatrice in abyssea no problem as well. There are ways around these difficulties.

Yes, solving the AI problem is the best solution. In the mean time, there are plenty of ways around the problem.

Pot calling the kettle black much? Weren't you getting in a huff because you thought I was trying to speak for everyone earlier? And look at you now.

I'm not saying that there isn't ways around the difficulties of the A.I... normally. But most of the time using a different frame will not cut it and your forced to use meds just to stay alive, and even then often die if it's something like paralyze and you get unlucky with the random number generator. And the whole point of this thread is that there shouldn't be a in the mean time any more. I'm pretty sure most of us realize ways around it, but sometimes you gotta throw your hands in the air and say it isn't worth the hassle, and give up.

I can't even believe that as pup I can break bones no problem yet because they have a tp move that does blind, and mages always have ice spikes up and enfeeble me, that quite often they're the ones soloing me if they're too high a level or I get a link that I can't shake off. I cower at skeletons and I find that quite insulting to my pride as a hand-to-hand user.

[Alhanelem]

Pot calling the kettle black much?

Pot is not calling the kettle black.

And look at you now.

I don't see a problem here. All I see is me being attacked on a personal level, and multiple people banding together with the attacker in the form of post likes.

I cower at skeletons

There's no reason to cower at skeletons, you should be stomping them. Using a different frame should cut it.

What part of I agree with an AI change aren't you seeing? Just because I'm pointing out alternate ways of dealing with a problem doesn't mean that I don't agree a problem exists.

[Alhanelem]

Let's make one thing absolutely clear: I apologized for the way I went about ciritizing the topic title, and pointed out that I agree with some of what is being proposed. So why are you still slinging mud and making fun of me? Why are we still arguing over me and not discussing the topic?

[Psion]

Let's make one thing absolutely clear: I apologized for the way I went about ciritizing the topic title, and pointed out that I agree with some of what is being proposed. So why are you still slinging mud and making fun of me? Why are we still arguing over me and not discussing the topic?

Because people love a good scapegoat to bash? Because we're bored? Because we hate Yukes? I dunno, you ask me <_<

Anyways, I do agree with getting back on topic. Namely, our chosen method of attack if the community reps don't respond soon. I personally nominate finding their addresses and emailing crying automaton dolls holding a sign saying "Fix me".

[Alhanelem]

Betting they fired the A.I. programmer.

All they need to really do is put status heals on a certain maneuver priority (I'm thinking water or wind) so that you can still get them when you actually want them and not when you don't. Other maneuvers might be better (I sometimes use water with the condenser) but one of those makes the most sense.

[xbobx]

You watch, they will ignore this topic and reply to some dumb post asking about the ability to put bumper stickers on their chocobo.

[chubrocka]

BLAH BLAH BLAH children. Stop whining and get back on topic. All of us as Puppetmasters Know what is wrong with the job, We all play it to our own liking though. So to have some basic changes would be something we have deserved for many years. Im not going to bash SE for what little thay have given. Im HAPPY to have it, but I/we play our autos and chars different. So to get back on track and NOT have a novel to read, can we use "simple words" and such for the hope that the DEV team reads this (that is the goal isnt it) and can help us with some basic issues. A SMARTER AUTO WHEN WE USE IT.

[Horadrim]

I'm all for the gambit idea too, makes sense to be able to program your puppet-robot's AI.

I've been saying that since the job came out...

Attachments should have been criteria for actions the automaton could take. You should have started off with basic "crappy" ones that make the automaton act like an idiot (i.e. like it does now) and then upgraded until you could make them function as a capable member of the party...

Maneuvers just detract of the PUP himself too much, decreasing your damage of time for faux gains that never quite add up.

[Panthera]

I agree with everything the OP has said.

Longer lasting maneuvers!

Should we be able to manually cancel out maneuvers as well? Sometimes we throw up a maneuver to trigger an auto JA, and after that, the maneuver has really out-lived its usefulness.