ATTN: Community Reps/Dev Team: PUPs of Vanadiel DEMAND a response on Automaton A.I.!

[Seha]

My position elsewhere isn't required to dictate my behavior here, and you are derailing this topic just as much by reacting to me as I am by reacting to someone else. I do not hold you to any special standard because you had X job somewhere else.

As a PUP myself, I resent being implied to be a part of a group that has the opinions of the original poster. I want them to do whatever they can to improve PUP, of course. but I'm not going to act like every/most/many PUPs share my views in the matter.

Well hello special snowflake, cause you're actually the only one I've ever seen who's happy with the Soulsoother's AI. If you're not, then don't complain cause you agree with the rest. If you only disagree with a part of a post, then quote and explain your reasons. But just coming here sayin that everyone should ignore this thread is just a lame attempt at attention seeking.

[Alhanelem]

"look at me! please pay attention to me! I am so important, stop talking without my approval!"

I'm not posting here to get attention, unlike the original poster. Nowhere did I ever say, suggest, or imply that someone needed my approval to talk.

Nobody cares about your opinion on how people word their topics

Nobody cares about your opinion of me either, but you still post about it. Excuse me for feeling that this forum would be more pleasant if people posted their threads normally instead of all trying to get the dev's attention.

cause you're actually the only one I've ever seen who's happy with the Soulsoother's AI.

I'm not "happy" with the soulsoother AI. You can now stop calling names in an effort to make yourself look better. I'm not saying that everyone in this thread should be ignored. My only intention was to convey that we the PUP community aren't issuing some kind of ultimatum. I request changes, not demand them.

That's all I have left to say, in an effort to prove my intentions.

[Seha]

I'm not "happy" with the soulsoother AI. You can now stop calling names in an effort to make yourself look better.

I didn't think special snowflake was offending, I thought it was just a way to say being different.

Explain what you agree with and what you disagree with, cause you haven't been constructive at all. Just sayin "ignore this thread and everyone who posts in it" isn't going to improve the development of the job.

[Alhanelem]

I've already posted some thoughts on this subject in the PUP forum, which I imagine is where this thread will eventually be moved.

But on other areas...

The main issue with sharpshot, is that for a ranger, it's pretty bad at shooting for TP.

That's why you allow it to go to melee range to get TP. It might feel silly, I suppose- but what if it did TP much better than it does now at range? Then TPing at melee range would be even more powerful- way too powerful, because Sharpshot does not have the ranged sweet spot system (Unless I'm sorely mistaken, but I've never seen a difference in its damage based on range)

Sharpshot's ranged attack is extremely high, having it shoot significantly faster would be pretty imbalanced, and lower ranged attack would weaken its weaponskills. HOWEVER, the barrage turbine needs to be adjusted to give full TP for each shot, and it should have a shorter cooldown.

[Seha]

Thanks, that's a constructive post.

[Mercilessturtle]

That's why you allow it to go to melee range to get TP. It might feel silly, I suppose- but what if it did TP much better than it does now at range? Then TPing at melee range would be even more powerful- way too powerful, because Sharpshot does not have the ranged sweet spot system (Unless I'm sorely mistaken, but I've never seen a difference in its damage based on range)

This was addressed in the first two posts, did you bother to read the OP or just skipped that part so you could jump straight to crying for attention? The whole point is that we already have a melee frame, having to have the ranged frame be in melee range defeats the purpose of having a ranged frame. Notice how both suggestions involved a way to make the trade off of sacrificing melee damage to gain ranged attack speed.

And yes, automatons suffer the ranged damage penalty, and their sweet spot is melee range. It is easy to see it, go shoot some worms from melee range and from 10+ away. No, automatons don't have "extremely high" ranged attack, their attack is calculated the same as anything else.

[Alhanelem]

This was addressed in the first two posts, did you bother to read

Yes, I did, or I would not have posted it. For the last time, I'm not crying for attention. Why else would I make a constructive, sensical post (Whether it's correct or not)? It's beyond my ability to comprehend why I'm being accused of being the attention seeker when the title of this topic is "ATTN: Community Reps/Dev Team: PUPs of Vanadiel DEMAND..."

And yes, automatons suffer the ranged damage penalty, and their sweet spot is melee range. It is easy to see it, go shoot some worms from melee range and from 10+ away.

I did this, and couldn't see a difference significant enough to overcome the random variance in attack damage. Even if you're right, that's all the more reason for it to be at melee range.

No, automatons don't have "extremely high" ranged attack

So why does the automaton's ranged attacks out damage anyone else's ranged attacks on a shot to shot basis? The only other thing it could be is the DMG: rating of its attack.

If you have sceintific testing to prove what you're saying, I'll happily accept it. But my personal experiences disagree with what you're saying.

[Cream_Soda]

Putting this in your topic title does NOT get you more staff attention, so PLEASE stop it.

lol, again?

backseat modding, yay

[Psion]

I'm just amused he thought I superficially claimed I was speaking for everyone. I have been a poster on alla, bluegartr, KI, ffxiclopedia, and now here for years, and played the job and lurked on pup forums ever since pup got its first pupdate after it came out. One of the biggest demands I have seen, in threads popping up everywhere, is the same complaint about the A.I., with not a single person disagreeing, with pups repeatedly demanding for years in dev Q and As for them to fix it, first starting with asking if they planned to adjust it, then mentioning the problem, then mentioning the problem more. When I say pups of vanadiel DEMAND a response, I mean it. Note that I didn't even say ALL pups of vanadiel, just pups. I even asked other pups to give their input on this thread.

I remember reading something in a story once, about how when people give an accusing opinion of other people, it's actually a trait that they themselves have. If they claim others are lazy, then they often are lazy themselves. If they claim others are attention whoring... well...

All I'm saying is I did not make this post flippantly, but instead am trying to continue the majority of pups continued pleas for the A.I. to be fixed.

[Alhanelem]

lol, again?

backseat modding, yay

Trolling, yay

I'm not backseat modding. There is no rule violation to moderate.

That's 100% false. I certainly care.

So why are you so interested in someone else's opinion of me?

//admittedly took the troll bait.