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    Player xbobx's Avatar
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    keep in mind in abyessa to make blm puppet competitive you have to sacrifice melee dmg a lot with atma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seriha View Post
    If it were just the puppet, sure, but with PUPs themselves getting their H2H bumped up along with much better gear and WS compared to their launch, they're still a factor alongside the Automaton. How close to two party members can the PUP and Auto get, with the mentioned quirk, before they're too much?
    Pup isn't remotely close to two party members. We're not even competitive with one party member in many situations, that's the problem. BST has an A- in axe, access to virtually all of the heavy DD gear in the game (they can wear pretty much everything WAR can) and has very strong selection of jug pets now. Do you think BST needs to be nerfed because they got good pets?

    People vastly overestimate the amount of damage an automaton does because they only look at their weaponskill damage. Their overall damage is not impressive at all, they attack very slowly and weaponskills are really far apart. It was already pointed out, but it is worth mentioning again: it is often counter productive to even bother using any maneuvers at all because automaton damage is so low, and the JA delay eats into the masters damage. That is not a good situation for a job that is supposedly focused on their pet. And really, how are we puppetMASTERs if we have virtually no control over our automatons due to the terrible AI?
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  3. #23
    Player Lushipur's Avatar
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    water man. to trigger -na spell OR let damaga gauge really prioritize cure over -na;
    dark man. to trigger drain and aspir;
    no need to fight over spaghetti code, just two really easy IF / END-IF XD

    and please consider where to put the next attachment....no other job need to some random farm to get the new toys....a war get a new ja just levelling not by killing 5 years old NM that nobody cares anymore
    yes, mage need to find the new spells but the amount of ppl playing blm/whm/rdm is far greater than pup so the AH is soon flooded by scroll and the price will eventually drops. this is unrealistic for a job in 20th position on the census.
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    Only the phoenix arises and does not descend. And everything changes. And nothing is truly lost.

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    Player xbobx's Avatar
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    Those mage spells are in gold chests, chest people readily farm and you can control the pop of. Brown chests in gov that many people don't do , and brown chests are rare, then you have to guess it right to open it, then you have to hope it is in chest. I bet it is less then 1 percent chance to get.
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    ATTN: Community Reps / Dev Team

    Please ignore this thread, or at all the DEMANDing people in it.

    We don't demand anything. We REQUEST that NPC/pet A.I. adjustments be considered.

    ATTN: Community Reps / Dev Team
    Putting this in your topic title does NOT get you more staff attention, so PLEASE stop it.

    keep in mind in abyessa to make blm puppet competitive you have to sacrifice melee dmg a lot with atma.
    That's why, when in abyssea, you only use it when you need the magic damage and meleeing is dangerous/risky.
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    No offense but commenting in every thread with "[attn]" or "[dev]" tags on it and saying it doesn't help is infinitely more annoying than people actually putting it in their thread title.

    For clarification, I hate it when people put "TO DEVS" and stuff in the title as well, But my silent hatred is enough.

    Either way, I'm not 100% on Rep personalities, but I think they can understand we're not actually ready to throw pitchforks. Maybe Demand is a strong word, But We'd definitely like something.

    all i really want from my Puppet is Longer Maneuvers
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    No offense but commenting in every thread with "[attn]" or "[dev]" tags on it and saying it doesn't help is infinitely more annoying than people actually putting it in their thread title.
    I will keep saying it until it stops. I'm sick of attention *****s.

    The community team reads everything. They don't need flashing signs to point them to threads that the person posting thinks are more important than anyone else's threads.
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    I'm aware of that, I'm only commenting on how its equally annoying to hear you complain about it. (Especially when its obvious they wont stop :|)

    Just trying to save you from wasting your energy :\
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    I guess what actually bothered me more in this case is someone thinking they represent the entire PUP community making rude demands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    They don't need flashing signs to point them to threads that the person posting thinks are more important than anyone else's threads.
    Pot calling the kettle black.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Please ignore this thread, or at all the DEMANDing people in it.
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