Comet/Meteor

[OMEGA_HACK]

Um...undead monsters? I have a WHM friend who deals 800 dmg Holy (which is really good since its basically insta-cast), also if you want to reach it further, it was one of the most powerful spells in FFX (and since Yuna was the easiest to get the dmg break she is usually your first character to deal 10k+ dmg on ALL monster types).

You answer your own question in your question: "focuses on maximizing white and black magic" However you mistype it, SCH's definition should be: Advanced Job that focuses on maximizing white OR black magic, unless of course the Scholar is under the influence of Tabla Rasa wherein both White and Black Magic are optimized to their fullest potentials. Read carefully your own posts, you claim Ultima is the best damage dealing spell in the game? Scholar by definition unlocks the FULL power of these magics, and since Ultima has in the past (this is a non arguable fact) been both White AND Black magic it makes complete since to allow SCH to cast it when they are optimizing BOTH White and Black Magics.

Oh and I'm sure now that you are grasping for straws since you are resorting to unclever and rudimentary quips targeted directly at someone (that person being me at this point). It really shows you lack of knowledge on the matter.

PS: Dia, Banish, Holy, Rela Crystal, Sap, Swap, Ultima, Aero (FF3), Tornado (FF3) all these spells did caused some kind of damage upon a target, some more than others but damage none the less. So I believe that makes more than 2 spells.

[Saefinn]

I'll say I have a raging hard-on for SCH. It's probably obvious to anyone I meet in the game.

I don't think it should step on the toes of BLM, I think it needs its own spells to make it special. However, I don't think SCH should be considered 'weaker' because it uses both schools of magic as I think there's plenty of areas where a SCH can be powerful. An exclusive nuke would be a nice addition, but as long as it didn't crap on BLM. I think SCH's real Magic DD strength shouldn't be in nuking. Nuking should be secondary to its helices - throw a helices to gradually deal a crap load of damage with the choice to throw in nukes in the middle or heal, but for the helix to be the main source of damage. It's how I play the job and I think we should be looking more into SCH's uniqueness not to piggy back off of play styles from other jobs. The reason I love SCH is because it's different, I wouldn't want to see it to become just a cross between BLM and WHM.

[Alhanelem]

People keep saying "comet" and "meteor", but the spell animation looks nothing like either of these spells- it's completely new.

[Malacite]

^ you sure? Hmm... what could it be then o-O?

@Saefinn: I love SCH too, and would like to see SE try to distinguish it more from the other mages rather than make it more of a RDM clone. I have no issues with SCH nuking - I just don't think it deserves the single most powerful nuke in FF. That's crossing the line, even if it's only with Tabula Rasa up. Ultimately it's up to SE anyway what SCH does and does not get, so we can argue all we want and it won't change a thing.

I'm still surprised that SCH even got Tier 5 nukes, instead of Tier 2 Helix spells (which I'm still hoping are in the pipes) but it's not an issue at all. Honestly I'm more interested in what the white magic TR spell will be than the Black (unless SCH just gets one spell but that'd be kind of silly given the nature/flavor of the job?) and again, very much want to see Regain's potency boosted.

There are better spells to use stratagems on than 1/tic AoE regain. If they bumped it up to at least 2 (3 max) then that'd be sweet. At the very least can we allow Accession to work with Haste? Even if it's SCH main only?

[Alpheus]

Come to think I've always wanted to see Starfall as a player character spell. Not so much specifically in XI just in the FF series in general. Of course thats probably Emperor Mateus' signature move so maybe it'll never happen (again in general)

[Alkar]

In previous .dat mines it was found that SCH is set to receive a light elemental nuke between 90 and 95 (don't remember the exact level). Considering SCH gets absolutely none of the light-based "nukes" in this game and the nature of Ultima in the series it only makes sense unless the new "Comet" is changed to deal light damage. Of course this can change as these spells and levels are not set in stone and can be modified in other VU (and probably already were in a way).
If you want a lore reason for SCH getting the most powerful spell (in your opinion anyway, Meteor is often considered more powerful especially in FF3,4,7) it's simply that Scholars study magic and learn to use them at their full potential.
SCH can cast spells more efficiently than WHM or BLM but their shortcoming comes with stratagem charges and lack of most spells in both white and black magic.
Do you really think a 2hr spell is going to make BLMs cry? I don't remember any BLM complaining when SMN got Odin.

[Leonlionheart]

It's not comet or meteor, it's doomsday.

Incoming MPK

[thenewzero]

In FFX, Ultima is under Lulu's section of the grid.

Actually, it's in Kimahri's area of the grid, the very center. I think it's intended to be viewed as being an amalgamation of all the magics.

It sounds to me like you're just jealous of BLM honestly.

I'm personally more jealous of WHM. SCH DD/nuking seems pretty decent (less spike than BLM, but good longevity/DoT), but there is a giant gaping chasm of a difference between extra Stratagems + Cure III/IV and Afflatus Solace + Cure V/VI. Of course, that might just be because Abyssea emphasizes throughput and ignores efficiency.

It would be nice to get some kind of unique healing spell that didn't step on the toes of WHM (healing helix?), and something more out of Addendum: White besides a few -na spells and Reraise/Raise spells. I'd also take improvements to our buffing instead, like improvements to Stormsurge/Adloquium or more buffs.

More then likely the SCH 2hr spells are refering to the tier 5 nukes.

You mean the ones SCH already has half of? And given the level progression thus far, that we will likely get at 91 (Fire V), 95 (Blizzard V), and 99 (Thunder V)?

[Raksha]

In previous .dat mines it was found that SCH is set to receive a light elemental nuke between 90 and 95 (don't remember the exact level).

lvl 95, which is why I think the light based nuke isnt going to be our 2hr spell, it would more likely be a lvl 99 thing

It would be nice to get some kind of unique healing spell that didn't step on the toes of WHM (healing helix?),

Wouldn't that be emphasizing efficiency and not throughput though?

You mean the ones SCH already has half of? And given the level progression thus far, that we will likely get at 91 (Fire V), 95 (Blizzard V), and 99 (Thunder V)?

Just ignore him, he's a troll.

[Runespider]

The size of that animation I would guess it's a monster spell, can you imagine the horrible lag to everyone if some blms were casting that? let alone 2-3.