FINAL FANTASY XI Job Adjustmentｓ Manifesto [Blue Mage]

[Tashan]

A lot of HNM mobs have NQ versions in Abyssea. I believe they will be learnable from those too.

i.e. I've already had a THF in my LS steal Harden Shell from the NQ Adamantoise in Abyssea-Tahrongi to find its at least a 75% defense increase.

[Neisan_Quetz]

That's less than Cocoon for crawlers and that got nerfed to half effectiveness, hopefully SE won't repeat.

[Kwate]

Hmmm, actually not a bad idea, might try osmosis on several and see if its a flat % and approximate time on the buff. Might try on mariads as well.

[Toukai]

Yeah I've dusted off my blue and I'm currently spell farming. At lvl 83, blue point spells even with merits are tight. I'm viewing my suggestion from lvl 1-99. Not just those who have everything unlocked. I'm currently at the first auto refresh with like 12 blue pts. I've yet to get battery charge so no refresh for me.

If SquareEnix think a +1 or +2 mp/tic will unbalance the game at this level I feel sorry for them. This will not save a player from a mob nor when mp runs out. Not to mention that elemental blue spells are so very expensive to cast. Auto refresh works nicely for things like a headbutt or sprout smack with very low mp cost, but anying over 50mp and that refresh fails.

What's even more bizarre if you think about it is the "Clear Mind" traits. Why does SE think bluemages are gonna be resting all over the place, needed 4 tiers of this? Yes, most of the spells useful anyway, but seriously...

Well i just got my +2 Blu Body today, the +2 refresh really comes in handy so I think that covers the jobtrait, and we could save some points setting more beneficial spells/job traits. I think thats what SE was thinking with the +2 empyrean body. With Battery charge im @ 6mp a tick, which aint bad, 7mp if im in an area with sanction/sigil. In Abyssea though i tend to grab MM and just go crazy with my mp when exp'ing.

[Ravenmore]

Yeah I've dusted off my blue and I'm currently spell farming. At lvl 83, blue point spells even with merits are tight. I'm viewing my suggestion from lvl 1-99. Not just those who have everything unlocked. I'm currently at the first auto refresh with like 12 blue pts. I've yet to get battery charge so no refresh for me.

If SquareEnix think a +1 or +2 mp/tic will unbalance the game at this level I feel sorry for them. This will not save a player from a mob nor when mp runs out. Not to mention that elemental blue spells are so very expensive to cast. Auto refresh works nicely for things like a headbutt or sprout smack with very low mp cost, but anying over 50mp and that refresh fails.

What's even more bizarre if you think about it is the "Clear Mind" traits. Why does SE think bluemages are gonna be resting all over the place, needed 4 tiers of this? Yes, most of the spells useful anyway, but seriously...

They didn't like battery charge at 4 mp a tic, so they nerfed it and made it last longer. So on paper it looks like a buff since we get more Mp but how long does it take to get the mp back from the cast. We do get a 5 tic refresh with easy to get gear and a 6 tic with +2 and can go higher with other gear thats really just idle gear. Inside abyssea mp in not a problem outside you won't be spaming spells on anything that matters other then dyna and mp drainkiss works really well in there.

[Zagen]

They didn't like battery charge at 4 mp a tic, so they nerfed it and made it last longer. So on paper it looks like a buff since we get more Mp but how long does it take to get the mp back from the cast. We do get a 5 tic refresh with easy to get gear and a 6 tic with +2 and can go higher with other gear thats really just idle gear. Inside abyssea mp in not a problem outside you won't be spaming spells on anything that matters other then dyna and mp drainkiss works really well in there.

How was it nerfed? You do realize we get an extra 100 MP now that we didn't get before right? >.> If you didn't set Conserve MP trait there was no point in setting Battery Charge if a RDM was there.

[Ravenmore]

Its still a nerf since at 4 mp a tic it took 12.5 secs to regen the 50 mp you used to cast it, at 3 mp a tic it takes 16.6 secs to regen it who cares it last 5 mins if the fight will last 2 mins. Its just like max mp being crap its how fast you get mp back. And conserve MP is a waste of set with how many JTs we get that are far more useeful. Also yeah rdms are so reliable giving out refresh to anyone but the whms/blms. How many time on pld you have to beg for refresh.Really blu are low on the list of getting refresh and if it drops for more then a few secs no way a busy rdm is going to get refresh back on you in a timly manner, its better to cast your self.

[Toukai]

Oh yeah, whenever i ask for fresh/haste as blu a rdm/whm barks "You can haste/fresh yourself!" And im like, I'm Elvaan, my mp pool aint that great...

[Zagen]

Its still a nerf since at 4 mp a tic it took 12.5 secs to regen the 50 mp you used to cast it, at 3 mp a tic it takes 16.6 secs to regen it who cares it last 5 mins if the fight will last 2 mins. Its just like max mp being crap its how fast you get mp back. And conserve MP is a waste of set with how many JTs we get that are far more useeful. Also yeah rdms are so reliable giving out refresh to anyone but the whms/blms. How many time on pld you have to beg for refresh.Really blu are low on the list of getting refresh and if it drops for more then a few secs no way a busy rdm is going to get refresh back on you in a timly manner, its better to cast your self.

Are you honestly trying to argue that the less than 10 MP difference matters?

At 75 the RDM I ran with always had refresh on my BLU and then even after Battery Charge was introduced with the 80 cap, likely because 1) she didn't suck, and 2) she was a BLU and could see how the 3 set points (7 if you count Conserve MP) could be used for other stats/traits. She also had the PLD refreshed, many times when we did events her cycles were 6 players long and she didn't slip more than a few seconds here and there if that. She even used to refresh my SCH but I had to ask her to stop because the way I rode Uggy. Latent back then Sublimation made it easier to control my MP pool.

Refresh cycles are easy to setup if you roll with a RDM that can't handle that then well that's the player's fault not the job. But then again if I went by that logic I'd say BLU sucks as a DD based on all the BLUs running around Abyssea EXP parties spamming Bludgeon because they haven't farmed spells.

[Ravenmore]

Blu lost 50 mp every 5 mins going from 2min30sec with 4 tic to 3tic for 5 mins. It still proves my point that SE deemed this was not balaced and nerfed it for 50 mp even though refresh 2 was released the same update. Its unlikly we will get auto-refresh 2 on the way to 95/99 unless they were pre-balacing over a 6 mounths early if you give the benafit of the quake. Thats not outside of what SE would do.

Something like T2 acc bouns is more likely , the jobs that get it are on T2 now or higher, drg I know gets T3 idk about rng or dnc. Maybe even another tier of eva bouns that would be nice and that can be subbed now with 45 thf. Tq. heart would be nice and use full and 2 jobs have it and its can be subbed, even MAB 2 would be welcom again can be subbed so now one would get bent out of shape over it.