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    Player Eric's Avatar
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    Aerolite
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    Siren
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    SCH Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Merton9999 View Post

    I'm wondering if the second vision paragraph was mistranslated or worded wrong, or if people are misinterpreting it.
    A comma can make all the difference in the world. It makes sense if you add a comma between "black mage" and "whose".

    the latter stages of their research will produce skills comparable to those of a white or black mage, whose spells may take time to cast, but compensate with both the bliss and destruction they beget.
    It's basically saying that SCH may be approaching the potency levels of WHM & BLM, but since WHM & BLM take longer to cast their spells, they are also more powerful than SCH's spells. Just kind of reinforcing the idea that scholar has always really been about--it's not stronger than either mage at casting a single spell, but it's quicker and more efficient.

    New job adjustments, along Abyssea, and other things, have sort of killed this idea because now not only is SCH weaker than WHM and BLM, but now it's also not considerably better at doing the things it was supposed to excel in.
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    Last edited by Eric; 07-16-2011 at 02:54 AM.

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    Player Raksha's Avatar
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    Raksha
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    The way I interpreted is that SCH is the one taking longer to cast the spells. Our taking longer to cast is compensated by being able to fill both roles.

    It isn't spectacularly worded though.
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    Player Sasaraixx's Avatar
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    Sasaraixx
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    SMN Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    The way I interpreted is that SCH is the one taking longer to cast the spells. Our taking longer to cast is compensated by being able to fill both roles.

    It isn't spectacularly worded though.
    I agree on both counts. That wording is needlessly confusing.

    I took a look at the Japanese version for clarification and not surprisingly, that wasn't entirely clear either.

    [白魔道士と黒魔道士のある程度の能力を持ちつつ、時間がかかるかわりに有効な支援、攻撃が行えるようなアビリティの追加/調整をしていく予定です。]

    My translation is, "Having skills comparable to that of WHM and BLM, we plan on adding/adjusting abilities that allow effective support or attacks in exchange for taking time." That isn't worderd spectacularly well either lol, but it is a little clearer I think. The "taking time" could refer to DOT spells (although th JP specifically says ability) or actual casting time.

    I would welcome TP spells as I think it fits in with the tactical aspect of the job, but they have to be potent. I wanted enmity spells for a long time, but the way they were implemented was terrible.

    Fix the Animus Spells.
    Fix Modus Veritas.
    Increase Aldoquium.
    Change the effect of Tabula Rasa (allow us to keep the strategems without having to reapply them)

    Do these 4 things and you will dealt with quite a few of my issues with the job. After that, then we can talk about Cure V, higher tier/more potent Helices, a new Klimaform type spell, and all of the other new goodies coming.
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    Last edited by Sasaraixx; 07-21-2011 at 06:22 PM.