[dev100x] Relic & Mythic Weapon Adjustments

[InfamousDS]

You seem to be the same, because if that were not the case, you'd be fine w/ them currently "being better" and not need to see the highest damage on them.

but the fact you aren't seeing those high numbers on relics and crying about it means you're exactly what you're accusing me of.

I have said at least once my only complaint is with them being better without requiring the same or more effort. I have also said that if everyone didn't live in Abyssea, I wouldn't even care about them being better at all, because that is where these weapons are so overpowered. Your chief argument against relic supporters is "get over yourself, get over it, and go make one". My chief argument is that, even if you were magically given all items for both, the Empyrean would 38x faster (38 days if you use a 30 day month, and a 7 day week, using the minimum absolute, and unchangeable 1 month, 1 week, and 1 day) because there isn't any restriction holding back their acquisition. I want relics to be better because the system is abused and drastically unfair. You want things to stay the same so you can keep bragging about 5k+ damage on your "got it yesterday without trying" weapon.

[Rambus]

Just wondering if anyone read this:

Many people including myself would have 5-10 Emps if the items were sellable.
Relics do take more then some mindless killing...I went 1/35 for my Yoichi test sitting on full currency for 10 months before giving up. (got test doing Apoc 90 trial 18 months later) I didn't finish a Mythic because I couldn't find a competent group to kill the 3 Toau kings, or a group that cared to. I had the alex (18k/30k barely trying), nyzul and einherjar parts done. My 90 emp was done 1/3 in LS, 1/3 with friends and 1/3 just standing near the ??? and helping randoms proc blue/red in exchange for hearts, it took a little over a week. Relics/Mythics deserve a boost because they were once and still are a major accomplishment. Emps are a dime a dozen. In my LS which has been around for years we have 1 Relic remaining and a dozen or so emps, most were done since Feb 1st. Yes the novelty of a Relic/Mythic is long gone, but the effort and accomplishment far exceeds what they are doing with Emps. And dont get me started on the 8k or so mobs I grinded through, most relics quit because of the gayness of those trials.

I am going to side with InfamousDS and that it does not work the other way around mr soda. Abyssea and its dang Atmas, with the amount of them there are and the little time they where made, you REALLY think there was thought and testing behind them? They are random stats like how I claim PW staff was made.

I would like some details on what emps outdo what relics outside abyssea.

When I say mythics need boosting its because stuff like BLM mythic, SCH mythic and so on underperform magin staffs no matter where they are, and HQ staffs prob outdo SCH mythic under potency atmas ( may get close to blm mythic, I dont know for sure I never ran the numbers) My statments is based on the math I know at level 75.

hey taint how do you make your money now a days anyway? its liek abyssea killed everything, or at lest feels that way.

Well, they're lifting restrictions on dynamis soon and you'll be able to spam it all you want. So that covers that complaint.

you atre assuming drop rates will be the same and that people will sell them for the same.

[Cream_Soda]

Well obviously your problem is with relics then, which they are adjusting dyna, so they'll be easier to get in the end. Well more take less time than being easier. They're already easy, just time consuming.

[Gaspee]

Well obviously your problem is with relics then, which they are adjusting dyna, so they'll be easier to get in the end. Well more take less time than being easier. They're already easy, just time consuming.

Relics for everyone!

[InfamousDS]

Well obviously your problem is with relics then, which they are adjusting dyna, so they'll be easier to get in the end. Well more take less time than being easier. They're already easy, just time consuming.

Or they could instead make Empyreans a real challenge.

Farming Only (using previous numbers):
Relic: 2500 runs, or 2500days (in the new system), which amounts to ~83 months(30day) of daily dynamis. For just the 10k currency. Buying is only viable option.
Empyrean: 2 runs @ 4hours each, 8 hours total. If you can recruit more spawns, you can cut just 1 stage down to around 6 hours, mats cannot be bought.

The difference is extremely clear, the only reason relic is "easy" is if you have unreasonable amounts of gil. And if you go 1/1 on the rare NM that are required kills. Oh, and if you find some way to bypass the 38 day wait, which is far longer then any empyrean story from the last 3 months. They were hard at first, but not anymore, and it was better when they were.

[Cream_Soda]

I would like some details on what emps outdo what relics outside abyssea.

I can't speak for all weapons, but Vereth outdo Spharai for sure, just not as huge of a margin as inside of abyssea.