[dev100x] Relic & Mythic Weapon Adjustments

[Rambus]

Don't worry, once the servers are back up none of us will be here and you can spend the time making it look like you have a good point about increasing the power of out dated relics uncontested.

Be nice if you answered my question, what new gear came out that replaced old?, before abyssea.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Be nice if you answered my question, what new gear came out that replaced old?, before abyssea.

Every expansion had it, there are too many count. In every expansion what people were using was replaced by what was new. If not, you'd still be wearing your full RSE all the time.

[Rambus]

Every expansion had it, there are too many count. In every expansion what people were using was replaced by what was new. If not, you'd still be wearing your full RSE all the time.

No, nothing ever got replaced, there was what i call bridges of have and have nots, like v-fork for non relic users that replaced AH alts

what did THF and such tp in before homan?

How meny thf at 75 use level 50 body? and later dnc?

people use PW staff over HQ staff? people use ZNM T4 staff over HQ staffs?

I can't think of anything that replaced sky gear.

oh wait... when your magic caped I guess you get faster tp in Byakko's Haidate over emp +2. yeah sure... progress....

you can't name any, try naming a few so i can counter it

how meny salavge amor was real improvement? I count morr body, morr pants, morr feet ( RDM)
full mori set for magic casting ( blu) skadi hands for ws ( RNG), skadi pants for tp ( in specific STP setups, RNG) usu feet ( SAM ) full usu ( pup I guess)

[Cream_Soda]

how meny salavge amor was real improvement? I count morr body, morr pants, morr feet ( RDM)
full mori set for magic casting ( blu) skadi hands for ws ( RNG), skadi pants for tp ( in specific STP setups, RNG) usu feet ( SAM ) full usu ( pup I guess)

Ares legs for ws. Then those got beat out by the later released hachiryu haidate.

Usu was definitely an upgrade for mnk.

[Rambus]

Ares legs for ws. Then those got beat out by the later released hachiryu haidate.

Usu was definitely an upgrade for mnk.

yeah i didn't get into ares, body is good for soloing drg/mage and ws piece for all jobs i think? that use it

I wanted hachiryu haidate so bad for rng ><

about mnk, full time 5/5 when it came out?

I was not calling salvage useless jsut people overrate all 5 and fulltiming all 5 and that those 5 did not replace everything before it.

[Cream_Soda]

about mnk, full time 5/5 when it came out?

Full usu was better for all things concerning damage since day 1 and was until af3+2 came out. Even a hachiryu haramaki mix and match didn't beat full usu back at 75

I want relics to be better because the system is abused and drastically unfair.

Well, they're lifting restrictions on dynamis soon and you'll be able to spam it all you want. So that covers that complaint.

"got it yesterday without trying" weapon.

I tried very hard for my weapon. I've no clue what you're talking about.

I leveld whm on a second character and did the majority of it myself. Some people spend 12 hours in Tahrongi to finish their first stage ukon, vereth, etc, but I spent 6-12 hours a day for two and a half weeks straight to do mine.

I have also said that if everyone didn't live in Abyssea, I wouldn't even care about them being better at all, because that is where these weapons are so overpowered.

considering Abyssea is done and the next content to come out is going to be outside of abyssea, this will very soon be an invalid argument as well.

[InfamousDS]

Dynamis isn't the issue. Look-up the relic weapons, you'll find yours is still twice as fast as the absolute minimum to make them Cream. Trial of the Magians is, at the very root, the problem. You can, at best (with no 100s), get ~400 city currency a run. You need at least 1 10,000 currency to make a weapon, which means every Dynamis gets you .04% closer to finishing just 1 part. However, the Empyrean needs only 50 of an enemy drop, and with 18 spawns, you can (at best) get 36 drops. That's 72% a run. No, that isn't easier in any way. And while Dyna saves the 10k for last, Emp use the constant 50 after the last timed NM. The systems are nothing alike and they strongly favor Emp weapons. This is my problem, notice damage is only mentioned here at the end.