[dev100x] Relic & Mythic Weapon Adjustments

[Tsukino_Kaji]

If this is to me, no I was not commenting on such things, I am saying you do not need new gear to replace old gear to make new events relevant. SE lasted on that concept for 7 years

Then the game would never change. New gear is supposed to replace the old otherwise teh game doesn't go anywhere. This is called progress, it's a good thing. Let go fo the past.

[Rambus]

Then the game would never change. New gear is supposed to replace the old otherwise teh game doesn't go anywhere. This is called progress, it's a good thing. Let go fo the past.

Then why people play this game for 7 years? 9 years? 5 years? there is other things about a NMO then "progress". " Progress" =/= replacing everything.

If you think we need progress and forget about the old then why magin trails for relics and mythics? Why does SE still have level 75 concepts? I have to disagree if you think we have truly progressed past 75.
And here is the other issue, with all the “PS2 limitations" SE needs to get rid of limbus, salvage, assault, so on and turn them into events that are relevant to 99.
I know, lets get rid of them and make them in abyssea, that’s what new people want right? Easy game?

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Then why people play this game for 7 years? 9 years? 5 years? there is other things about a NMO then "progress". " Progress" =/= replacing everything.

If you think we need progress and forget about the old then why magin trails for relics and mythics? Why does SE still have level 75 concepts? I have to disagree if you think we have truly progressed past 75.
And here is the other issue, with all the “PS2 limitations" SE needs to get rid of limbus, salvage, assault, so on and turn them into events that are relevant to 99.
I know, lets get rid of them and make them in abyssea, that’s what new people want right? Easy game?

And again, why are you so hard set they relic needs to be on par with empyrean?

[Rambus]

And again, why are you so hard set they relic needs to be on par with empyrean?

explain why relic are the highest D but underperform emps because of WS.

Because I can, like with PW staff, ZNM t4 staff and other weapons like that SE does thow RANDOM things on weapons / gear and hope it works. emps outdoing relics is most likey a mistake since magin trails have one consisnt

relics have the TOP D

[Tsukino_Kaji]

explain why relic are the highest D but underperform emps because of WS.

Old. New. Done.

[Rambus]

Old. New. Done.

must be new player.....

new =/= better .....

in FFXI new gear ment more macro gear or bridging have and have nots, in 7 years before the cap 80 there was never gear replacment.

please understand this

[Tsukino_Kaji]

must be new player.....

Wrong again. I'm just more excepting of change obviously.
And they relased all kinds of new and better bear before the 80cap. Everyone expansion added something.

[Dakotacj]

must be new player.....

new =/= better .....

in FFXI new gear ment more macro gear or bridging have and have nots, in 7 years before the cap 80 there was never gear replacment.

please understand this

We understand very well. Some gear is still great. Some relic weapons could use a boost. However what's going on here, is you're bawwing and crying about how whatever weapon you spent AGES getting (apparently a Yoichi from your sig), is being outclassed on what, weaponskill damage and overall parsing? I have some news for you friend: in most cases, it's not the weapon that's failing, its the person using it. Yes, Empyreans are far quicker to get. However, most Emp users I've seen in action completely fail. Most Relic users I've seen completely fail. I've only seen one Mythic in action, and that was a badass DRG with Ryunohige and he was a freaking beast with it. You've gone on for the past several pages and hours about how there is 0 balance between Empyrean, Mythic and Relic weapons. In your mind, because Square-Enix said so, the Tiers would go Relic >> Mythic >> Empyrean. Now, when has anything we interpreted from SE come out exactly as we interpreted? Not often. There IS a balance of weapons among the jobs, you just have to pull your head out of your arse and look closer. As cream soda said, some Emps are better than some Mythics and Relics. Some Relics better than some Mythics and Emps, and some Mythics better than some Relics and Emps. In your case of butthurt, yes I can see how you're so upset over your Relic being upstaged after 5 years of work. Namas Arrow is complete fail for damage, the best thing it's for is the Aftermath. Gendiva beats Yoichi as far as WS DMG and Aftermath is concerned. Yoichi can still have it's strong points, but you're too busy bawwing about its weak points. The fact you go on about "gear not getting replaced" says it all. You're not replacing your gear, so your Relic DMG is falling far behind.

The point of this is: Stop whining about it. If it's really bugging you that bad, try different gear setups, or heck, go make an Empyrean then. Stop crying to us and do some actual research.

[Cream_Soda]

explain why relic are the highest D but underperform emps because of WS.

Because I can, like with PW staff, ZNM t4 staff and other weapons like that SE does thow RANDOM things on weapons / gear and hope it works. emps outdoing relics is most likey a mistake since magin trails have one consisnt

relics have the TOP D

Higher DMG doesn't always equal better.

Delay and additional stats have always played a major role.

Are you basing your argument as "Relics have higher DMG so they should be the best?"

[Cream_Soda]

Then why people play this game for 7 years? 9 years? 5 years? there is other things about a NMO then "progress". " Progress" =/= replacing everything.

If you think we need progress and forget about the old then why magin trails for relics and mythics? Why does SE still have level 75 concepts? I have to disagree if you think we have truly progressed past 75.
And here is the other issue, with all the “PS2 limitations" SE needs to get rid of limbus, salvage, assault, so on and turn them into events that are relevant to 99.
I know, lets get rid of them and make them in abyssea, that’s what new people want right? Easy game?

Ffxi has always been an easy game. If you want a hard game, go play ninja turtles on NES.

Cream Soda, have my babies. <3

14/M/CA, you?