[dev100x] Relic & Mythic Weapon Adjustments

[Rambus]

You can solo KIs without brew! and some of the NMs can be soloed without brew!

I do not think your understanding me.

its simple concept, you can solo emps if you choose too, you cannot solo emps or mythics.

getting 4 people is around what you need to do emp in 1 week, you can not do parts of relic or mythic with 4.

I really think your not understanding or trying to understand what I say

You didn't read what I said. Mythics need a huge adjustment in their difficulty/performance ratio. Mythics need to be better than Empyreans, I believe.

not what SE said! SE just made the quest too hard without thinking.

Spending 5 years on a Yoichi is also your fault/decision. Pot, this is the kettle. He's black.

troll comment? I do not understand this

[Crysten]

You can solo KIs without brew! and some of the NMs can be soloed without brew!

I do not think your understanding me.

its simple concept, you can solo emps if you choose too, you cannot solo emps or mythics.

Oh, I agree. What I'm saying is you can't truly solo an Empyrean without a significant time investment farming Cruor for brews, assuming you go for the harder NMs and you're not dualboxing. This is the part of the argument that I find dumb - people shouldn't overexaggerate and say "you can solo it in a week!" when in actuality most people are actually dualboxing and doing these in groups anyway, exactly as for relics and mythics.

I don't think relics need adjusting. Mandau, Annihilator and Amano (to name a couple), fully upgraded are still better and/or on par with Empyreans.

There are shitty relics, and there are shitty Empyreans.

[Michaeluk]

I don't think relics need adjusting. Mandau, Annihilator and Amano (to name a couple), fully upgraded are still better and/or on par with Empyreans.

There are shitty relics, and there are shitty Empyreans.

Wow you do talk some crap, first off the aftermath from massa 90 will destroy amano sill.

[Crysten]

Wow you do talk some crap, first off the aftermath from massa 90 will destroy amano sill.

I made the right choice to upgrade the joke weapon then ^_^

[Rambus]

Oh, I agree. What I'm saying is you can't truly solo an Empyrean without a significant time investment farming Cruor for brews, assuming you go for the harder NMs and you're not dualboxing. This is the part of the argument that I find dumb - people shouldn't overexaggerate and say "you can solo it in a week!" when in actuality most people are actually dualboxing and doing these in groups anyway, exactly as for relics and mythics.

I don't think relics need adjusting. Mandau, Annihilator and Amano (to name a couple), fully upgraded are still better and/or on par with Empyreans.

There are shitty relics, and there are shitty Empyreans.

pretty sure its understood your having help getting them done in a week, but the thing is people can get them all done in a week if it is a small group 2-4 useally, for most anyway maybe need brew for stuff like gavoild ( the dagger 75>80) but stuff like brutas ( sword, katana , dont know what else) are ALL completely soloable, the KI and that NM.

The fact is relics and mythics can't be soloed while emps can. Emps can be done in small groups ( that are like a week, some report doing them in less then a week) where those small groups would still fail doing parts of relic and mythic. Relics and mythics are harder to get then emps and should be better regardless when they came out. How meny relics do you see? how meny mythics? how meny emps? I see too meny emps and not enough mythics, that alone should show you somethign is wrong.

There was gear that was out in RoZ that remained top till abyssea came out. This game in general has a history of making new gear bridge the have- and the have nots, and that is where emp weapons sit.

new=/= better.

Just wondering, when did you start to play?