[dev100x] Relic & Mythic Weapon Adjustments

[Siviard]

The only people that are "upset" are the people who are relic owners who use their relic/relics as an excuse to feel they are superior to other players who have yet to obtain one, so lets keep it real here shall we? I bet Unctgtg is one of those players with his Apocalypse (I see 90 DRK on him, so it's a pretty educated guess)

I welcome this change to dynamis, as I enjoyed it since I first started doing it, and am looking forward to trying out this new "Dynamis v2.0"

[Dazusu]

The only people that are "upset" are the people who are relic owners who use their relic/relics as an excuse to feel they are superior to other players

People need to stop using this crap as an argument.

Relic holders are rightly agitated and upset due to spending six months to three years, more in some cases, obtaining a Relic; only for it to be worthless 10 levels later. Completely outdone by a weapon which takes no more than 3-4 days to obtain (max. a couple of weeks). If SE didn't agree with this, there wouldn't have been trials from Level 80 for Relics.

It's evident that those trials don't upgrade the Relic weapons enough.

It's the same argument for people asking for a challenge in gameplay "the only people who want that are elitists"

Really, dream up a decent argument.

[NotAzure]

People need to stop using this crap as an argument.

Relic holders are rightly agitated and upset due to spending six months to three years, more in some cases, obtaining a Relic; only for it to be worthless 10 levels later. Completely outdone by a weapon which takes no more than 3-4 days to obtain (max. a couple of weeks). If SE didn't agree with this, there wouldn't have been trials from Level 80 for Relics.

It's evident that those trials don't upgrade the Relic weapons enough.

It's the same argument for people asking for a challenge in gameplay "the only people who want that are elitists"

Really, dream up a decent argument.

10 levels, sure.

Let's also gloss over just how long the level cap was set to 75.

As an addendum:
I should specify that I think, given the dynamic established in FFXI, that it would be perfectly okay for SE to introduce trials of a sort to bring the relics up to par with their Empyrian counterparts. In the event of this, I do not thing either should surpass the other. Options over "mine is better than yours" idiocy any day of the blasted week.

If you feel that the extant trials aren't doing what they're supposed to (I cannot speak on this intelligently, lacking a relic) then that's an alright complaint to make.

[Corres]

The only people that are "upset" are the people who are relic owners who use their relic/relics as an excuse to feel they are superior to other players who have yet to obtain one,

Wrong! i don't own a relic. but for me a Relic weapon has far more value to me than an empyrean ever will. Relics take a lot more time and friends willing to help you out (animated weapons i am looking at you). it is a shame that Relic Weapons have become the "lol"-version of the legendary weapons obtainable by their respective jobs.

[Unctgtg]

The only people that are "upset" are the people who are relic owners who use their relic/relics as an excuse to feel they are superior to other players who have yet to obtain one, so lets keep it real here shall we? I bet Unctgtg is one of those players with his Apocalypse (I see 90 DRK on him, so it's a pretty educated guess)

I welcome this change to dynamis, as I enjoyed it since I first started doing it, and am looking forward to trying out this new "Dynamis v2.0"

Yes I am level 90, with Apoc. I also spent 18 months getting one. I also spent 24-30 days EVERY SINGLE update when cap was increasing, doing the trials (before they lowered it to 400 killshots) only to watch Emp completely blow relics out of the water. I would spend 2-3 hrs a night soloing for my kill shots, 9500 mobs that I had to kill with WS Killshot. Don't tell me I haven't put in my time.

When I see a person do an entire emp in 4 days from start to finish Its very disheartening to see them completely outdamage me along with other relics/mythics.

SE needs to fix these in the next update.

Edit: and calling me an elitest, ask anyone that truly knows me, I am far from it.

[Cenz]

Yes I am level 90, with Apoc. I also spent 18 months getting one. I also spent 24-30 days EVERY SINGLE update when cap was increasing, doing the trials (before they lowered it to 400 killshots) only to watch Emp completely blow relics out of the water. I would spend 2-3 hrs a night soloing for my kill shots, 9500 mobs that I had to kill with WS Killshot. Don't tell me I haven't put in my time.

When I see a person do an entire emp in 4 days from start to finish Its very disheartening to see them completely outdamage me along with other relics/mythics.

SE needs to fix these in the next update.

Edit: and calling me an elitest, ask anyone that truly knows me, I am far from it.

uncle tug tug!!! Your an elitest!! lol j/k we still <3 u!

[Porcius]

I think the best way to fix Relic weapons is to make them break caps as well as the already implemented %dmg of ws increase. i.e. Catastrophe: Additional effect 10% haste instead of replacing 10% gear haste. Aegis should break MDT cap. Amano should give tp return as if it were 450 delay on top of the 10 store tp. These are just a few ideas they could add to the 95 version. It gives them an edge to keep up with the aftermath of empyreans.

[Michaeluk]

I think the best way to fix Relic weapons is to make them break caps as well as the already implemented %dmg of ws increase. i.e. Catastrophe: Additional effect 10% haste instead of replacing 10% gear haste. Aegis should break MDT cap. Amano should give tp return as if it were 450 delay on top of the 10 store tp. These are just a few ideas they could add to the 95 version. It gives them an edge to keep up with the aftermath of empyreans.

This would be a start, they also need to boost the hidden odd. Crysten up there doesn't feel its hard to get a relic funny she doesn't have one she also tells us relic holders to get a empyrean well i did and i still say as a owner of both relics need fixing and empyreans are a joke to get.

Also getting sick of people saying relic holders are butthurt we can't look down on people anymore lol please its more about the 3 months to 3 years some people put into getting relics to only be shit on by se. As i pointed out in a earlier thread it takes longer to take a 85 relic to 90 than it does to make a empyrean weapon.

[Unctgtg]

This would be a start, they also need to boost the hidden odd. Crysten up there doesn't feel its hard to get a relic funny she doesn't have one she also tells us relic holders to get a empyrean well i did and i still say as a owner of both relics need fixing and empyreans are a joke to get.

Also getting sick of people saying relic holders are butthurt we can't look down on people anymore lol please its more about the 3 months to 3 years some people put into getting relics to only be shit on by se. As i pointed out in a earlier thread it takes longer to take a 85 relic to 90 than it does to make a empyrean weapon.

Ah good point on 85-90

[Reiokyu]

Wow...these complaint threads are everywhere...