[dev100x] Relic & Mythic Weapon Adjustments

[Rambus]

I'm not following too well. You trying to say that emps should take years to get? lol

If this is to me, no I was not commenting on such things, I am saying you do not need new gear to replace old gear to make new events relevant. SE lasted on that concept for 7 years

[Tsukino_Kaji]

If this is to me, no I was not commenting on such things, I am saying you do not need new gear to replace old gear to make new events relevant. SE lasted on that concept for 7 years

Then the game would never change. New gear is supposed to replace the old otherwise teh game doesn't go anywhere. This is called progress, it's a good thing. Let go fo the past.

[Crysten]

Cream Soda, have my babies. <3

[Rambus]

Then the game would never change. New gear is supposed to replace the old otherwise teh game doesn't go anywhere. This is called progress, it's a good thing. Let go fo the past.

Then why people play this game for 7 years? 9 years? 5 years? there is other things about a NMO then "progress". " Progress" =/= replacing everything.

If you think we need progress and forget about the old then why magin trails for relics and mythics? Why does SE still have level 75 concepts? I have to disagree if you think we have truly progressed past 75.
And here is the other issue, with all the “PS2 limitations" SE needs to get rid of limbus, salvage, assault, so on and turn them into events that are relevant to 99.
I know, lets get rid of them and make them in abyssea, that’s what new people want right? Easy game?

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Then why people play this game for 7 years? 9 years? 5 years? there is other things about a NMO then "progress". " Progress" =/= replacing everything.

If you think we need progress and forget about the old then why magin trails for relics and mythics? Why does SE still have level 75 concepts? I have to disagree if you think we have truly progressed past 75.
And here is the other issue, with all the “PS2 limitations" SE needs to get rid of limbus, salvage, assault, so on and turn them into events that are relevant to 99.
I know, lets get rid of them and make them in abyssea, that’s what new people want right? Easy game?

And again, why are you so hard set they relic needs to be on par with empyrean?

[Cream_Soda]

Then why people play this game for 7 years? 9 years? 5 years? there is other things about a NMO then "progress". " Progress" =/= replacing everything.

If you think we need progress and forget about the old then why magin trails for relics and mythics? Why does SE still have level 75 concepts? I have to disagree if you think we have truly progressed past 75.
And here is the other issue, with all the “PS2 limitations" SE needs to get rid of limbus, salvage, assault, so on and turn them into events that are relevant to 99.
I know, lets get rid of them and make them in abyssea, that’s what new people want right? Easy game?

Ffxi has always been an easy game. If you want a hard game, go play ninja turtles on NES.

Cream Soda, have my babies. <3

14/M/CA, you?

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Ffxi has always been an easy game. If you want a hard game, go play ninja turtles on NES.

And Zanac. >.<

[InfamousDS]

First off: As a career Dancer, I have spent the last 4 years praying for the update that makes Mandau usable for me. In the meantime, I have desperately wanted a Mythic. I don't want or care for Twashtar for any reason other then it looks cool. Rudra's Storm is not as good as Evisceration in a decent critrate/DEX build, especially in Abyssea. However, all I would have to do is this:

/check friendlist
/tell "Hey, I'd love a Twashtar. Lets go make one"
*3 days later, after killing the Timed NMs*
/p "Awesome, lets finish this up!"
*1-7 days later*
/p Kewl!
Reply: Grats!


Now, lets see the same with Mythic/Relic{for SMN}

/tell "Let's make a Mythic!"
Reply: "Good luck with that!"


In short: People will help with the least time-consuming option. Due to entry restrictions on Salvage and Dynamis, they are not only ridiculous to obtain, but you end up spending so much gil trying to overcome it that you bankrupt your character and they become the sole focus of your attention. Abyssea has NO restrictions, Abyssea has NO limiting factor, Abyssea does NOT impose a forced RL wait in between upgrades. All arguments stating Empyrean are hard are made by imbeciles who have never attempted something truly difficult. Relic/Mythic should be better by virtue of what they represent, not what they are. I still respect players with legitimate Relics far more than I respect Abyssea-nubs who (judging by the vast majority of opinion) burned the job from 30+ to cap and then had their LS get them an Emp "for the hell of it."

Oh, and I hated SMN burning too. Before Abyssea, I soloed all the way to 68, because SMN is expected to magically break the job gap and be a main heal because "they have lotta MP!". I'm a shitty WHM, I'm willing to admit that. Why would I want to be a shittier one with more mp?

[Rambus]

And again, why are you so hard set they relic needs to be on par with empyrean?

explain why relic are the highest D but underperform emps because of WS.

Because I can, like with PW staff, ZNM t4 staff and other weapons like that SE does thow RANDOM things on weapons / gear and hope it works. emps outdoing relics is most likey a mistake since magin trails have one consisnt

relics have the TOP D

[Tsukino_Kaji]

explain why relic are the highest D but underperform emps because of WS.

Old. New. Done.