[dev100x] Relic & Mythic Weapon Adjustments

[InfamousDS]

First off: As a career Dancer, I have spent the last 4 years praying for the update that makes Mandau usable for me. In the meantime, I have desperately wanted a Mythic. I don't want or care for Twashtar for any reason other then it looks cool. Rudra's Storm is not as good as Evisceration in a decent critrate/DEX build, especially in Abyssea. However, all I would have to do is this:

/check friendlist
/tell "Hey, I'd love a Twashtar. Lets go make one"
*3 days later, after killing the Timed NMs*
/p "Awesome, lets finish this up!"
*1-7 days later*
/p Kewl!
Reply: Grats!


Now, lets see the same with Mythic/Relic{for SMN}

/tell "Let's make a Mythic!"
Reply: "Good luck with that!"


In short: People will help with the least time-consuming option. Due to entry restrictions on Salvage and Dynamis, they are not only ridiculous to obtain, but you end up spending so much gil trying to overcome it that you bankrupt your character and they become the sole focus of your attention. Abyssea has NO restrictions, Abyssea has NO limiting factor, Abyssea does NOT impose a forced RL wait in between upgrades. All arguments stating Empyrean are hard are made by imbeciles who have never attempted something truly difficult. Relic/Mythic should be better by virtue of what they represent, not what they are. I still respect players with legitimate Relics far more than I respect Abyssea-nubs who (judging by the vast majority of opinion) burned the job from 30+ to cap and then had their LS get them an Emp "for the hell of it."

Oh, and I hated SMN burning too. Before Abyssea, I soloed all the way to 68, because SMN is expected to magically break the job gap and be a main heal because "they have lotta MP!". I'm a shitty WHM, I'm willing to admit that. Why would I want to be a shittier one with more mp?

[Crysten]

Cream Soda, have my babies. <3

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Don't worry, once the servers are back up none of us will be here and you can spend the time making it look like you have a good point about increasing the power of out dated relics uncontested.

[Rambus]

Don't worry, once the servers are back up none of us will be here and you can spend the time making it look like you have a good point about increasing the power of out dated relics uncontested.

Be nice if you answered my question, what new gear came out that replaced old?, before abyssea.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Be nice if you answered my question, what new gear came out that replaced old?, before abyssea.

Every expansion had it, there are too many count. In every expansion what people were using was replaced by what was new. If not, you'd still be wearing your full RSE all the time.

[Rambus]

Every expansion had it, there are too many count. In every expansion what people were using was replaced by what was new. If not, you'd still be wearing your full RSE all the time.

No, nothing ever got replaced, there was what i call bridges of have and have nots, like v-fork for non relic users that replaced AH alts

what did THF and such tp in before homan?

How meny thf at 75 use level 50 body? and later dnc?

people use PW staff over HQ staff? people use ZNM T4 staff over HQ staffs?

I can't think of anything that replaced sky gear.

oh wait... when your magic caped I guess you get faster tp in Byakko's Haidate over emp +2. yeah sure... progress....

you can't name any, try naming a few so i can counter it

how meny salavge amor was real improvement? I count morr body, morr pants, morr feet ( RDM)
full mori set for magic casting ( blu) skadi hands for ws ( RNG), skadi pants for tp ( in specific STP setups, RNG) usu feet ( SAM ) full usu ( pup I guess)

[Cream_Soda]

how meny salavge amor was real improvement? I count morr body, morr pants, morr feet ( RDM)
full mori set for magic casting ( blu) skadi hands for ws ( RNG), skadi pants for tp ( in specific STP setups, RNG) usu feet ( SAM ) full usu ( pup I guess)

Ares legs for ws. Then those got beat out by the later released hachiryu haidate.

Usu was definitely an upgrade for mnk.

[Cream_Soda]

We want relics to be better because they ARE better

If they were better, then you wouldn't have all these "zomg why do relics do less damage than emps" threads would we?

[InfamousDS]

If they were better, then you wouldn't have all these "zomg why do relics do less damage than emps" threads would we?

Because you are a mindless number zombie, incapable of seeing beyond high damage.

[Cream_Soda]

Because you are a mindless number zombie, incapable of seeing beyond high damage.

You seem to be the same, because if that were not the case, you'd be fine w/ them currently "being better" and not need to see the highest damage on them.

but the fact you aren't seeing those high numbers on relics and crying about it means you're exactly what you're accusing me of.