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    Quote Originally Posted by InfamousDS View Post
    No, its that same sense of anger and betrayal that started this thread. You loved your uncle, and this other relative you've never met is given something your uncle knew you were saving to get. He could have left it to you, but instead he allowed you to spend all that time and energy going into something that is now actually less.
    That's still misguided self entitlement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InfamousDS View Post
    No, its that same sense of anger and betrayal that started this thread. You loved your uncle, and this other relative you've never met is given something your uncle knew you were saving to get. He could have left it to you, but instead he allowed you to spend all that time and energy going into something that is now actually less.
    And, mayeb the uncle know you were better off. Maybe your cousin is too stupid to do thing for themself and needed all the help they could get.(No, that's not a game analogy. It's a realistic view of the situation you put forth.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by InfamousDS View Post
    No, its that same sense of anger and betrayal that started this thread. You loved your uncle, and this other relative you've never met is given something your uncle knew you were saving to get. He could have left it to you, but instead he allowed you to spend all that time and energy going into something that is now actually less.
    That's entitlement, buddy. There's nothing that says he has to give you anything at all.
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    You only see it as negative because it suits your argument.

    The Uncle is, of course, SE. The relative is, oh lets say Cream because they are readily available example. You are the relic owner. The only investment they have made is time. That's it. You have spent 6 years making and saving for your relic, and they spent 2 weeks making an Empyrean at no cost.

    I don't own one, but I'm willing to take the banner of their side because no matter how you explain it away the fact remains: They got more for less, and I at least deserve the money I've spent since I can't get the time back. The actual least they could do is make Empyreans harder or relics more effective in Abyssea. The scales are not balanced. It may be entitlement, but it is righteous entitlement and not as self-serving as you are trying to say. If Empyreans were even CLOSE to the challenge of relics, then the fact they are better would be well-deserved. But they aren't, and so Empyreans are now owned by every jerk-off with an excess of 2 friends, a LS, or enough patience to shout. Which, btw, you can't do even with the dynamis adjustments more than once every day.
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    I never said the words "Self serving". I send "sense of entitlement" which is 100% correct. Thank you for clearing that up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InfamousDS View Post
    You only see it as negative because it suits your argument.

    The Uncle is, of course, SE. The relative is, oh lets say Cream because they are readily available example. You are the relic owner. The only investment they have made is time. That's it. You have spent 6 years making and saving for your relic, and they spent 2 weeks making an Empyrean at no cost.

    I don't own one, but I'm willing to take the banner of their side because no matter how you explain it away the fact remains: They got more for less, and I at least deserve the money I've spent since I can't get the time back. The actual least they could do is make Empyreans harder or relics more effective in Abyssea. The scales are not balanced. It may be entitlement, but it is righteous entitlement and not as self-serving as you are trying to say. If Empyreans were even CLOSE to the challenge of relics, then the fact they are better would be well-deserved. But they aren't, and so Empyreans are now owned by every jerk-off with an excess of 2 friends, a LS, or enough patience to shout. Which, btw, you can't do even with the dynamis adjustments more than once every day.
    You gone from a self imposed sense of entitlement to just plain greed. Trying to keep what you achieved for yourself all the while feeling self pitty because some one else achieved the same thing earlier.
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    I wasn't saying they aren't entitled. In fact, I was saying they were and using a very real example. You can say you wouldn't resent the relative, but unless you a soulless drone, you will feel avarice, anger, resentment, and even entitlement. You will hate the relative and forget everything you loved about your uncle for some time. You will complain to friends and family, and investigate why it wasn't you. This is how people react when they aren't grief-stricken, and while I never outright said it, you knew the uncle had died and had even went to the funeral (the relative didn't of course, you had never met). I took the time to include grieving into the story, you assumed it was recent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InfamousDS View Post
    You can say you wouldn't resent the relative, but unless you a soulless drone, you will feel avarice, anger, resentment, and even entitlement. You will hate the relative and forget everything you loved about your uncle for some time. You will complain to friends and family, and investigate why it wasn't you. This is how people react when they aren't grief-stricken, and while I never outright said it, you knew the uncle had died and had even went to the funeral (the relative didn't of course, you had never met). I took the time to include grieving into the story, you assumed it was recent.
    That's nothing but plain old greed. And makes the one seeking entitlement a bad person.
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    You can say you wouldn't resent the relative, but unless you a soulless drone, you will feel avarice, anger, resentment, and even entitlement. You will hate the relative and forget everything you loved about your uncle for some time. You will complain to friends and family, and investigate why it wasn't you.
    Maybe that's what you would do. I'd do nothing of the sort. If he leaves me something, great. If not, oh well. I'm not that crazy over things that never belonged to me to begin with, lol.

    I took the time to include grieving into the story, you assumed it was recent.
    I didn't assume anything. Who ever said anything about grieving. It'd still make no difference.

    I'm a low maintenance person, I don't need shit from other people when they die. Getting mad because someone didn't leave you something just makes you a selfish ahole, lol (which is probably why they didn't leave you anything to begin with)
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    The trial from 85-90 relic takes 2 1/2 weeks MIN. You can do 3-4 emp in that time. So SE fix the relics and Mythics.
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