[dev100x] Relic & Mythic Weapon Adjustments

[Rambus]

If you're talking about mnk, usu was replacing

Turban/Togi(+1)/Bkote/Byakko's/Fuma. for TP. Usu legs replaced shura haidate+1 until it was replaced by Hachiryu Haidate. Usu shoes replaced w/e the fk mnks used (was limited lol options), until being replaced by af3+1(+2)

If you're talking pup, I had full usu before I lv'd pup, so couldn't tell you there.

I was talking more so of relic/ af macros but I can't remember what was first, usu or relic. With byakko's legs is that it was not replaced for SAM and its still isn't. (pretty sure war, bst still used them for tp)

for sam now in regards with Byakko's pants:
with +2 though you have to say your magic capped and not using the STP witch will not be common. Still has a limited use for sam though, to go with my point SE has a hard time replacing gear.

Bkote was still used by rng then and it was still agured if skadi or bkote was best for ws.

turban was not replaced with all jobs, and now holds true till you get +1, or +2 heads for all your jobs.

even then mages dont have haste on thier heads so it can be used in macros and can be used down to puch some recasts down.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Arguments is for 75, since my statement was "SE really did not replace gear pre abyssea" but the thing is what was usu replacing?

So you're saying that pre-TAU you didn't use any gear.

[Penance]

It only takes one week to get an empyrean? What have I been doing wrong...

I understand the problem though, I do believe that those weapons should have a similar increase. Though for one handed weapons like sword/club etc i do not feel that one should be able to dual wield these weapons and be overpowered either. I dont feel that they should be (much) better though.

But there are still updates to come in which im sure the relic/mythic will get another update.

[Rambus]

It only takes one week to get an empyrean? What have I been doing wrong...

I understand the problem though, I do believe that those weapons should have a similar increase. Though for one handed weapons like sword/club etc i do not feel that one should be able to dual wield these weapons and be overpowered either.

But there are still updates to come in which im sure the relic/mythic will get another update.

I am worried about some mythics.

I am talking about the ones that where useless at 75 and still useless

Mainly fits the mage ones.

lifting caps at 75 would help pld with Atonement do more damage, so there is more issues then the mythics them selfs.

So you're saying that pre-TAU you didn't use any gear.

new macro gear =/= replace.
understand this, and maybe you been missing my point.

WHAT gear that was out in 2003/3004 no longer used before abyssea?
i even listed some gear that is still used today from then.

see my usu comments

[Humie]

I think alot of you have lost the point here SE have said they were doing trials for relics to keep them up to date and relics will be the best weapons available.

Relics are no longer lvl75 weapons as they get trials so stop with the 90 emperiums should be better argument
Emperium wepons should be powerfull in there own right maybe even better than relics in some ways just not by the huge diffrence at the moment. All people wanted to do is say to SE they feel the trials havnt gone far enough.

This is a sugestion forum to SE please treat it as such if you want to argue about things there are plenty of forums which you can do so. Players leave sugestions and SE decide to take action on there points or not.

It isnt in anybodys interest for people to argue about peoples points in every thread the only thing this will achive is SE ignoring these forums as players have turned them into constant arguments instead of the feed back they requested

[Unctgtg]

I think alot of you have lost the point here SE have said they were doing trials for relics to keep them up to date and relics will be the best weapons available.

Relics are no longer lvl75 weapons as they get trials so stop with the 90 emperiums should be better argument
Emperium wepons should be powerfull in there own right maybe even better than relics in some ways just not by the huge diffrence at the moment. All people wanted to do is say to SE they feel the trials havnt gone far enough.

This is a sugestion forum to SE please treat it as such if you want to argue about things there are plenty of forums which you can do so. Players leave sugestions and SE decide to take action on there points or not.

It isnt in anybodys interest for people to argue about peoples points in every thread the only thing this will achive is SE ignoring these forums as players have turned them into constant arguments instead of the feed back they requested

They outclass my relic by 5k in WS damage per

[Rambus]

in abyssea? ant that a bit overexertion?

what about outside abyssea? i don't see any ws doing 5k unless its on strange damage taken + mobs, lolsavage

[TearValerin]

in abyssea? ant that a bit overexertion?

what about outside abyssea? i don't see any ws doing 5k unless its on strange damage taken + mobs, lolsavage

^ My damage


^ An acquaintance's damage


A friend's damage.

How do you not see 5k+ on normal mobs?

[Rambus]

^ My damage


^ An acquaintance's damage


A friend's damage.

How do you not see 5k+ on normal mobs?

normal mob as in NOT ABYSSEA -.- hate abyssea people always think your talking about abyssea only. can't wait for new content so people stop assuming its abyssea talk

and abyssea or out regardless he said 5K more then his ws.

no idea what a Spectator is

and i think your ws is on in abyssea on weak to ppiercing mob (soulds like a bee mob, I dont know that mob).... with mythic 90 right?
thought i saw that SS before talking about 90 mythics

[TearValerin]

normal mob as in NOT ABYSSEA -.- hate abyssea people always think your talking about abyssea only. can't wait for new content so people stop assuming its abyssea talk

and abyssea or out regardless he said 5K more then his ws.

no idea what a Spectator is

and i think your ws is on in abyssea on weak to ppiercing mob (soulds like a bee mob, I dont know that mob).... with mythic 90 right?
thought i saw that SS before talking about 90 mythics

None of those are weak to piercing, even outside, Drakesbane still hits a good 1500-2k. Regardless, really GOOD drg and war CAN do 5k more than alot of relic ws :\.