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    Player Covenant's Avatar
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    What would people do if "Haste" stop existing from today on? Haste whether a song or single cast has made players into zombie's. Go to bard forum...what do they want? The next haste song, scholar? haste AoE, RDM haste II?, summoner hastagaII?...blah, blah blah.

    Unfortunately, SE keeps slapping this unto everything. Yes, I enjoy it as much as the next person, but its time to start thinking outside of the box. I want redmage and other jobs to have multi-buff and multi-debuff spells, even if it's at the same potency level. Imagine a spell that gives haste/refresh, or haste/phalanx in one shot. Or, how about my "murk" debuff that gives gravity/blind/slow?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Covenant View Post
    RDM haste II
    I think I'm missing these topics where Rdms are begging for haste II.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Covenant View Post
    What would people do if "Haste" stop existing from today on? Haste whether a song or single cast has made players into zombie's. Go to bard forum...what do they want? The next haste song, scholar? haste AoE, RDM haste II?, summoner hastagaII?...blah, blah blah.
    Don't kid yourself, it would just be replaced with an obsession over whatever the next most powerful stat happened to be in light of Haste's absence.
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    This sums up a lot of my thoughts about the way Scholar works or should work. Wasn't a Scholar a supportive mage in the lore? It makes things favorable to the party, then proceeds to add extra magical damage or healing as the situation needs it.
    Traditionally, there...is no real definitive image of what Scholar is. As it is, it's a very uncommon available class in Final Fantasy.

    Just browsing a Final Fantasy wikia for a bit, it looks like the III DS version is as close to the XI version as any, with the ability to cast a variety of both white and black magic. It looks like all they did was determine enemy weaknesses in the original III. A running theme of the job though is it determines enemy weaknesses and scans enemies.

    In IV: The After Years, they knew Gil Toss.

    The Scholar that I'm most familiar with, aside from the XI one, is the one from Tactics A2, which actually specialized in dealing attacks that potentially dealt damage to all units in the field, including your own, and one you had to actually build teams and gear sets around to capitalize on. They also had the ability to scan enemies and tell you what kind of items can be stolen from a given enemy.

    My impression of the XI Scholar is that it's a combination job of previous ones like Geomancer and Oracle/Sage/Lunarian/Seer or whatever else the extreme magic specialist of the game happens to be called this time.
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    By lore I meant FFXI store line stuff. I may be mistaken.

    I should probably be more clear by what I mean by supportive, what I meant was Scholar does stuff like Geomancer type buffs, and more importantly, is able to switch between damage and healing to assist in these functions, ideally in a group that has both of these roles mostly covered already.
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