Screwed again: Proposed THF job adjustments.

[Insaniac]

I hope this isn't what I think it is....

Lv91 Abuzoatori dark
to absorb the good status of the enemy.

I might be jumping to conclusions cause google translate isn't the most reliable thing in the world but if this a magic based aura steal I may lose my mind. Not because it doesn't make sense for DRK but because SE just finished telling us aura steal on a shortened timer would be broken. I'm getting ahead of myself...I'll hold my rage 'til later when the official translation comes out.

[Karbuncle]

That seems really hard to misconstrue.

Quite frankly, BLU already has 2 Aura Steal Abilities, one of them even Drains HP. Giving another to DRK won't shock me, and its just further proof they're either hypocritical or just hate THF.

Why do they hate this job so much...?

[Byrth]

Not to mention that there are only a handful of statuses you can actually steal with Aura Steal, lol. Most of the time you're just forcing them to wear off.

[Karbuncle]

Yah, Thats always fun too. Wanna steal that? Oh, Too bad, Its on a list of "unstealable".

[Babekeke]

We got nothing. Dual Wield is used to DD, but to DD, the only reasonable sub is /NIN, which overrides our native Dual Wield. If they give us a higher level of DW that doesn't force us to /NIN, this might be a legitimate argument, but as of right now, it's not.

You completely missed the boat. Before we got native DW, /nin was the only reasonable sub to DD with. Since we got native DW, it opens up /war as the best DD sub. Especially in a situation such as Voidwatch where you won't be top of the hate list (because our damage sucks). Yes, /NIN gives better survivability, but /WAR wins in most situations now

[Karbuncle]

You completely missed the boat. Before we got native DW, /nin was the only reasonable sub to DD with. Since we got native DW, it opens up /war as the best DD sub. Especially in a situation such as Voidwatch where you won't be top of the hate list (because our damage sucks). Yes, /NIN gives better survivability, but /WAR wins in most situations now

WAR I believe is the best DD sub job right now, because Dual Wield II/III are only 5% Apart and Berserk/Dbl-atk/general-War-things make up for that, I believe this is true.

However i feel his general argument, THF is useless, Is quite accurate. Until the differences between TH2 and TH20 are known/useful, The job is meaningless to bring unless you're extremely OCD about having every last 0.000% drop buff.

[Laphine]

it's a 10% difference actually karb. Even so, the difference between /war and /nin is very small.

Also (just nitpick), on no DW age, war always always the best dd sub on non-tpburn situations/gods level stuff.

[Babekeke]

it's 10% difference actually karb. Even so, the difference between /war and /nin is very small.

Also, just nitpick, on no DW age, war always always the best dd sub on non-tpburn situations/gods level stuff.

Yes, but post DW, it's enhanced even more with the off-hand hit on WS, stats from 2 daggers, and of course, the 15% faster attacks. Not to mention being able to cap haste as /war now (with haste, 2x march and merited haste samba). Without native DW, /war only reached 76.5%. This also shows that the DW3 from /NIN when you have full haste support only reduces the amount of tp you gain, and won't make you swing any faster. (so don't bother with boomerang if you have full haste support ;p )

[Phen]

The initial reports from Japanese players on the dark spell is that its magical aura steal and if you nether void its two buffs. Our merit re-do for aura steal better be like damn horrid roar or the dev team is full of all kinds of bs about balance.

Also on the /war /nin discussion dont discount the power of subtle blow for not killing your party members and of course the ever present usefulness of utsu.

[Insaniac]

Quite frankly, BLU already has 2 Aura Steal Abilities, one of them even Drains HP. Giving another to DRK won't shock me, and its just further proof they're either hypocritical or just hate THF.

Yeah the spell itself isn't what bothers me. It makes sense as something a DRK would be able to do and I wouldn't really call aura steal a core THF ability. It's the fact that SE is now basically the guy we work with who owed us money, told us he didn't have it, and shows up the next day wearing a new pair of shoes. I feel our intelligence is being insulted... forgive me if that's a bit over dramatic but are we not supposed to notice shit like this? The reason for the aura steal timer was bullshit to begin with but they could have at least waited a while before they completely contradicted themselves.