Screwed again: Proposed THF job adjustments.

[Insaniac]

I don't play thf at a high level so feel free to set me on fire for this one...

Would having to knock the mob down to 1/4 HP before you can steal preven the steal/hide thing? This way there is no real quick rinse and repeat Gil spinner. Or at least have it so you steal a pants item if the HP is higher and then a shiny thing once you (or the party) have nearly KO'd the mob.

It's not really a bad idea except for the fact that it's not needed. As mentioned before it's simply not possible anymore.

Seriously, I would trade the ability to steal any items at all for the ability to steal temp items with high success rate on a lower timer. With the exception of BB, I haven't used steal with the intention of stealing an item in probably 2 years. If SE is so afraid of steal they need to change it completely instead of letting it linger in the realm of terrible. When 3 of the worst JAs in the entire game are on 1 job something needs to be done.

If you aren't sure which 3 I'm talking about.. Mug Steal and Despoil. The only other JAs that I can think of on the same level of useless/terrible are Gauge and Scavenge.

[Babekeke]

Seems like their idea is actually similar to what Slakyak said, if I interpret it correctly. As TH rises, so does the chance to steal (better?) items, and more gil.

[noodles355]

For the chance to steal better items, monsters would need to be given things worth stealing at all.
SE has basically said they want us to steal more and they dont want us to steal more.

[Karbuncle]

sometimes i actually wonder if they realize how absolutely worthless most items you steal are.

The only profitable steal item i can think of thats almost worth farming are Lesser Chigoe from Marids. And even that is still piddly money compared to other things you could be doing.

[Laphine]

i imagine it should be much easier to steal platinum beastcoins. Idk how good is the demand for them tho.

[Karbuncle]

They're worth generally less/same price than/as Gold Beastcoins, and not that much more than Mythril, which are easier to steal.

[Alaik]

And even if they were a 100% steal shot, we'd still use cruor for gil as opposed to lolbeastcoins.

[Garota]

Um... I couldn't get Brulo & Ogopogo off of me at all the other day. Was Paladin with Almace carvin' Zs in their faces, I would Trick Attack and Eviscerate to make a Darkness skillchain. I'd toss in a Sneak Attack to try to bump up Treasure Hunter 8. Every time Paladin could Cover me he would, but it wasn't enough and they proceeded to turn to me and smack me in the face...

Moments like this make me wish Enmity Douse was a Thief ability and not Black Mage. So yeah... That's all I got to say about that...

[Karbuncle]

Capping hate is fun :X

[noodles355]

What karbuncle said. You capped hate. It's stupidly easy to do in abyssea. It's like saying you out-parsed random melees in a pickup EXP party: it doesn't mean anything (except that the enmity system needs a fix).