Screwed again: Proposed THF job adjustments.

[Babekeke]

Question: Does anyone reading this thread read Japanese better than Google? I'm curious to see how they're taking it. Google translate can show general displeasure for sure, but there's alot left to be desired...

Someone did explain this somewhere around page 15 I think. Basically, they have very similar views to ours:
Some extra damage, but not to make us on par with the sole DDs;
If we're going to control enmity, make the JAs useful for such;
Don't want to be just TH whores.

[noodles355]

That was an interpretation from google translate iirc.

[Karbuncle]

That was an interpretation from google translate iirc.

No, Another fella came in (I'm assuming he is JP) and translated a bunch for us.

[Alaik]

It was before Camate's response as well. Of course I'm assuming that the reps didn't just respond to the NAs, and posted what Camate said on the JP boards as well.

The translation I'm wanting is their thoughts about aura steal being "overpowered", etc, etc.

[Sasaraixx]

It was before Camate's response as well. Of course I'm assuming that the reps didn't just respond to the NAs, and posted what Camate said on the JP boards as well.

The translation I'm wanting is their thoughts about aura steal being "overpowered", etc, etc.

I speak Japanese and went over and took a peak at the JP Thief thread. They are pretty much saying what you guys are. I saw one comment that mentioned aura steal and it asked "how can a job ability that you can use once every five minutes be overpowered?" There were also complaints about not being able to steal anything and asking at least to be able to steal temporary items from NMs.

Some posters wanted more information on Collaborator and Accomplice, but others said that Thief needs more important changes than those two abilities. There was unhappiness with the way TH upgrades and disappointment that you were not given Subtle Blow because of the change to TH. I also saw comments about not being able to do anything outside of SA/TA and people wondering if the development team understands how many players are very angry with the way Thief is being handled.

I'm at work, so I can't spend too much time on the forums, but if you'd like to know something else in particular and I take a peak again later today.

[Alaik]

That would be nice Sasa.

[Nala]

its good to know the thief community is largely of one mind on the direction SE wants to take us, and on the utility of LOLSTEAL/AURASTEAL/DESPOIL.

[Alaik]

Being unified is something that's relatively new for thieves, but we'll see if it does any good. I'm sure that it's also trans-continental will help as well. If JPs are asking for the same stuff as NAs and EUs, I dare say SE is more likely to take all three seriously.

[Zyla420]

or they'll be just as stubborn as usual and implement things we don't want at all, cause it's "their vision" for how they think a job should be played. though i'm srsly hoping this won't be the case...

[Nebo]

Honestly though, this is nothing new.

How long have we been offering feedback? Long before these forums ever existed.

There is no indication that the decision makers are getting an unfiltered version of the very strong negative feedback that the playerbase is offering regarding these fundamental THF issues, or that they care to listen to us at all. For them to say something like "we fear that THFs will just steal and hide from monsters again" Is a perfect indication of how out of touch they are.....this has not been possible for many many years due to the changes they made to steal long ago. They have a vision of THF that simply does not exist anywhere else but their minds. The climate of FFXI is very very different than they are imagining.

I really thought these forums would be the communication vehicle to change all that, but this is just more of the same. The decision makers appear to be just as intentionally out of touch with the playerbase as ever. Even with this direct communication line.

The community team deosn't seem encouraged or empowered engage in conversations about these things. Instead they just make broad announcements whenever they are permitted to speak on something. Even these "announcenemts" we get are really far too seldom to make the posters feel like they aren't just typing into the ether. HOw long have these foums been up and running and it has taken this long for someone to post in the THF forums? That's just silly.

Until Cammate posted here, there was no indication that the community team reads (or cares) about the job forums at all.

Edit: Although it looks like they are trying to kill FFXI off with all this retarded billing changes as well. That might just be the last nail in the coffin for me. I'm not going through all this hastle for "Aurasteal is overpowered."