Screwed again: Proposed THF job adjustments.

[Zirael]

I'm gonna wait for the official translation before my head officially explodes but it looks like SE is giving BLU triple attack, gilfinder, and.... treasure hunter. All via setting new spells.

Gilfinder is already there (requires 2 spells set for 8 points, pretty expensive, but it's there). http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Gilfinder
Also, anyone can get this trait by using Bandolero Scarf.
But if now BLU is getting Triple Attack as well, we've been slapped yet again. Where's my 10% Quadruple Attack at this point, I ask?
As for Treasure Hunter being given out again, I've stopped caring. With Tarutaru Sash and /thf or RNG/ quite few jobs have all the TH they'd ever need. People are already content dual boxing their empy weapon farms with pocket WHM/THF, so... whatever.

Edit: We'll get it translated in few hours probably, but what google.translate is telling me, it looks like BLU will be able to 'upgrade' their combo bonuses by setting additional spells, so Double Attack-> Triple Attack and Gilfinder->Treasure Hunter (similar to how BLU can get Dual Wield II by stacking more spells giving the same bonus).

[Byrth]

If it makes you guys feel any better, Dancer's update notes were bullshit too. They basically told us that they weren't going to address any of the real issues with the job and again only leave the "generic DD" route open to themselves. I guess we're going to continue to have two sub-par generic dagger DDs next update.

[Karbuncle]

they're clearly terrified of the raw power dagger possesses.

I don't know, i sit here hoping and praying they're just joking around, and that they finally wake up and help these jobs...

[Insaniac]

If it makes you guys feel any better, Dancer's update notes were bullshit too. They basically told us that they weren't going to address any of the real issues with the job and again only leave the "generic DD" route open to themselves. I guess we're going to continue to have two sub-par generic dagger DDs next update.

It's funny. Most of the other job specific replies have had some amount of hope in them. DNC and THF both basically got.. "We know what you want but you can't have it." I will say at least some the reason DNCs can't have what they want were moderately valid. The THF replies were "You can't have what you want for reasons that make no sense and we won't give you anything to look forward to either."

[Byrth]

Their logic behind refusing to split Waltz timers is shakey at best, in my opinion. DNC isn't a WHM replacement even if they can heal as well as them in some situations. Any serious fight is still going to leave Dancer at the curb because you don't want to TP feed hard monsters. Making us incapable of main healing in any kind of endgame situation is going a step too far.

I mean, I have a mule with THF, BRD, RDM, and WHM at 90 (along with some other things). Did I ever bring him THF to even level 75 endgame events and heal him with my Dancer, even back when I assumed that TH3 added another trait level? Nope! Because Waltzing at all seriously cuts into Dancer's damage (Saber Dance) and in the end I'd have a smoother and more enjoyable time DNC+healer than THF+DNC or even THF+RDM.

[Insaniac]

Their logic behind refusing to split Waltz timers is shakey at best, in my opinion. DNC isn't a WHM replacement even if they can heal as well as them in some situations. Any serious fight is still going to leave Dancer at the curb because you don't want to TP feed hard monsters. Making us incapable of main healing in any kind of endgame situation is going a step too far.

I mean, I have a mule with THF, BRD, RDM, and WHM at 90 (along with some other things). Did I ever bring him THF to even level 75 endgame events and heal him with my Dancer, even back when I assumed that TH3 added another trait level? Nope! Because Waltzing at all seriously cuts into Dancer's damage (Saber Dance) and in the end I'd have a smoother and more enjoyable time DNC+healer than THF+DNC or even THF+RDM.

I'm not saying all of it makes perfect sense but it makes more sense than "We didn't give you subtle blow because you can proc TH" or "We can't make good items to steal because then people might be encouraged to use the JA steal in a way that we patched 4 years ago." or "Aura steal having it's own timer would be overpowered even though BLU gets a spell that does pretty much the same thing on a 56s max timer" The DNC reply is full of "Ehhhhh?" and the THF reply is full of "WTTTFFFFFF!?!?"

[Byrth]

There are times when I wonder if the responses sound equally stupid in japanese.

[Laphine]

I really want an official job update announcement now. If they are to kill me, i prefer a quick death.

[Insaniac]

There are times when I wonder if the responses sound equally stupid in japanese.

Yeah, lol. Maybe the ability to properly BS is lost in translation.

[Nebo]

NA BLU thread: In case you missed it:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...l=1#post170181

The below job traits are set so they can be enhanced.

Dual Wield/Fast Cast/Store TP/HPmax/MPmax/Auto Regen/Counter/Magic Burst Bonus/Skill Chain Bonus

While it is not possible to enhance all of the above job traits at level 90, with further level cap increase and the addition of new blue magic spells it will be possible to enhance them.

Also, when double attack/gilfinder are enhanced, we are planning to have them change into triple attack/treasure hunter.

So yeah, they will be able to set Triple Attack and Treasure Hunter.

Maybe this is all part of their plan to justify giving THF a DD update or two? Give everything we have away so that everyone won't cry becuase we have all these neato unique things AND we can DD?

...I don't know....this is....I don't know