Job Adjustments manifesto Discussion

[Draylo]

It's not about hating its just how well he summed it up. You have to come into every thread that people have opinions about and spout off how they are wrong for having them despite a good majority agreeing with them.

[Korpg]

It's not about hating its just how well he summed it up. You have to come into every thread that people have opinions about and spout off how they are wrong for having them despite a good majority agreeing with them.

No I don't. I see a lot of bad ideas on this forum, but generally the bad ideas don't take away a good thing from a job.

Tarage's idea takes away a basic ability that has helped more SMNs out than harmed them. Even his problem has a very simple solution to keep from being a problem. Why should he be allowed to not be criticized?

Our little discussion has revealed the main problem at hand: him. He is the problem, not his suggestion. Everyone also have agreed that not being on top of the hate list will keep the avatars from attacking the slept mobs, but he still goes on about his little problem because he is still the only one who is having this little problem. If everyone has told you the earth is round and you still state that the earth is flat, who is the one who is having the problem? Do you think that the consensus of many people have just as much weight on an argument as one person's argument?

[Byrth]

There you go again, assuming that taking away Avatar autoattack against sleeping monsters somehow matters at all for Summoner. It doesn't, so stop strawmanning like he asked SE to take away autoattack all together.

I agree with Draylo, which means this is another example of what he's describing.

[Darkwizardzin]

......Korpg I understand your fear of SE messing up the game because of game adjustments you don't like... but you need to realize this situation won't improve by following this guy through every thread and making a counter post to every post he does.

SE needs to deside whether this is a worthwhile change or not..... not you. You have made your case and so has he on this matter... so let it go and move on.


My opinion: the change is uneeded and (imo) would be hard for SE to do (also... would this only apply to slept? or would it exstend to bound and petrfiyed monsters?)... but it isn't hurtful at all to the game and im sure many smns would feel nice about not having to worry about there pets waking up slept monsters anymore due to hate changes.

[Seha]

This thread is still Korpg vs the world? Would you drop it everyone?

[Tarage]

I asked him to drop it many times. All I wanted was to be able to ask for my fix without him coming in and badmouthing me at every turn.

EDIT: I could start dredging up quotes of people who have said "Yeah, I've had that problem too", but it's not worth the effort anymore. He'll just ignore it for the sake of continuing his losing argument.

[Korpg]

......Korpg I understand your fear of SE messing up the game because of game adjustments you don't like... but you need to realize this situation won't improve by following this guy through every thread and making a counter post to every post he does.

SE needs to deside whether this is a worthwhile change or not..... not you. You have made your case and so has he on this matter... so let it go and move on.


My opinion: the change is uneeded and (imo) would be hard for SE to do (also... would this only apply to slept? or would it exstend to bound and petrfiyed monsters?)... but it isn't hurtful at all to the game and im sure many smns would feel nice about not having to worry about there pets waking up slept monsters anymore due to hate changes.

I'm not following him at all. I'm just trying to show him what is wrong with his idea and why it was horrible, in hopes of him finding out the real problem. I don't even respond to him directly anymore, but he still thinks I'm following his every post. He even said it himself.

But as long as he continues to say that we "need" this change, I have to respond otherwise, because I know that SE won't look at every post, they will look at the first and last pages to see what people are talking about. That is how things roll. It is hard to go thru 500+ pages a day to find new ideas among the sea of bad ideas.

[Tarage]

I'm in awe. Even if everyone tells him he is wrong, he won't ever think he is.

This guy is pathetic.

[Leonlionheart]

Continue arguing about the same thing, though neither party will change it's mind.

Real brilliant on all accounts

[Tarage]

I said I'd stop. I said I'd be fine to just let it go. All I want is to be able to make my request without him coming everywhere I go and saying how stupid it is.

He's the one who has this obsession.