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    Player Inafking's Avatar
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    Kingofswords
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    Asura
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    BLU Lv 99

    Cardian Automaton

    I never plan to take up PUP but I might if I could get a better looking pet. As a lifetime resident of Windurst, I see the perfect replacment in front of me all the time. But anything that doesn't look like it just jumped off the short bus would be preferable. I'd like to see how many people who main PUP agree with me.
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    Player Lessina's Avatar
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    Bite your tounge. I think the Automaton looks just fine. I personally never cared for the Cardian myself, so I'm not really for the whole Cardians as pets thing. If you really want a whole different array of Pets, why not just go play Bst?
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    Player Kuroganashi's Avatar
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    Make Shantoto Ride it >.>
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    Player StingRay104's Avatar
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    This is the third time I can recall on this forum this being brought up, and just like the other times the PUP said no to cardians. Just thought I'd save you the trouble of the eventual fix our AI thread this is gonna turn into (All roads lead to fix our AI).
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    Player Kristal's Avatar
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    I want an Iron Giant as a pet automaton

    Who'd dare call us lolpup with that...
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    "Puppetmaster was our last best hope for peace. It failed.
    Now it's our last best hope.. for victory!"

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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Tahngarthor
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    Shiva
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    Cardians are nothing like automatons, and Shantotto clearly demonstrates in the storyline how she believes windy's automatons are superior to aht urghan's automatons.

    spoilers follow.
    The cardian that follows her in the story even levels up after beating up an automaton.
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    Player Tetsujin's Avatar
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    Tetsujin
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    Don't be silly.

    Puppetmasters are an Aht Urhgan specialization. Story-wise, it would make no sense for you to command or configure a Cardian in the same way as you would an automaton, especially where Ghatsad is involved (as the person above me stated.)

    And besides, (more spoilers, highlight message to read.)
    Mnejing and Ovjang weren't exactly optimized for combat purposes. To pit one of them up against the King of Hearts? On the other hand, I'm sure a standard automaton from a fairly devoted puppetmaster could outperform the Windurstian Cardians.
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    Player Seha's Avatar
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    Cardians are Zonpa-Zippa's concept of automaton. So yeah they are automaons.
    That being said, I don't think they'd be the right new head/frame people want(can't even imagine separating a cardian's head and body o.o).
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    Player Kristal's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seha View Post
    Cardians are Zonpa-Zippa's concept of automaton. So yeah they are automaons.
    That being said, I don't think they'd be the right new head/frame people want(can't even imagine separating a cardian's head and body o.o).
    Actually, cardians are closer to
    undead
    then automatons, seeing as they are nothing more then a wooden frame housing
    part of the creators soul
    in their starfruit core.
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    "Puppetmaster was our last best hope for peace. It failed.
    Now it's our last best hope.. for victory!"

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    Player Covenant's Avatar
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    I posted the idea in wiki about the "Manuister" job thread. The idea was a new take on pet jobs. Basically, the master to pet ratio is always 1/1. I thought would it be cool to have a job class that could utilized the "Cardian card item" and craft multiple pets. The Manuister could have multiple tries of Cardian each requiring multiple timer/recast timers formula. I envisioned approximately 1-10 units of Cardian depending on lvl following around a player.

    Just go to campaign and watch what's his name, the windy general. As far as "power level"? Being that it's a multiple pet job, they actual strength(HP/DEF/mp) would be lesser than a regular pet job, but would still hit with "normal" accuracy and damage.
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