Originally Posted by
saevel
I realize your lost in the "must prove someone wrong on the internet" but you kinda missed the entire discussion.
We were talking about giving the 2H DW ability either to SAM natively or WAR / DRK. Thus your premise of SAM/NIN is immediately wrong. It would be SAM/WAR or SAM/DRK in all situations and thus an attack boosting JA will be present
I realize you are overreacting and have missed as much as me the discussion
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Originally Posted by
Horadrim
OP:
Originally Posted by
DarkBass
Since Samurai in real life were able to dual wield Light Katana blades, I think this would be a great, and refreshing addition to Samurai. I was thinking the Mechanics would work as follows.
- Offhand Great Katanas can only be Kanesada type blades since they are the lightest type of Great Katana in the game.
- To make sure Samurai is not overpowered, the tp gained from the offhand Great Katana would either be 1/2 or 1/3 of the main Great Katana's tp gain.
I do feel this addition won't overpower Samurai and really stick to the realistic additions that have already been implimented to Samurai already. Possibly add a different dual wield stance for Samurai.
Thank you for the read and please consider this for the future updates.
not working exactly like DW
The off hand hit gets the same WSC bonus as the main hand hit and is only missing the fTP multiplier. For a WS like Shoha it would definitely add a chunk of damage, woudln't double it or anything stupid but would be noticeable.
was talking about the pDiff boost that only aply on 1st hit , and didnt say that it wouldnt increas your WS dmg but less than what you said.
if you use kanto the TPbonus boost will surpass the extra hit boost.
and if you want to talk about caped or near pDiff then you shouldn't use shoha.
Finially your melee damage would be increased via the direct DPS buff that is DW. 30% DW is a 42.85% increase in melee damage, you'd have to be rocking 65~70% haste before the 10% JA from hasso would beat the 30% boost from DW.
LQ brd (+2 horn,+1hands) is enough to get enough haste (64) so the 12.5 (with haidate+2) haste from hasso beat 30DW in attack speed (and doesnt lower TP/hit)
in caped magic/gear haste hasso cap DR, 30DW don't
but yes in low man (no brd,no embrava) and assuming that sam doesnt loose sub, 30DW increase DPS more than hasso
Now quick come up with more nonsensical conclusions based on faulty premises then declare yourself the "winnar!!".
ok!
A) let say SE add a new JT that allow sam to equip 2 GKs:
1) it's not the Dual wield trait and then you cant bebefit from suppa
2) DR wont be as high as NIN nor DNC DW
then you get a 15% DR multiplicative VS a 12.5 additive
wich one win?
tip with only haste gear: 36.25DR that lower tp VS 37.5 haste
B)
30%DW is NOT 42.85 dmg increase over single wielding but over "dual wield 0" unless you off hand have the same dps than your main
lets take masa99/kanto your base DPS drop from 18.12 to 15.84
15.84*1.4285=22.63DPS after DW wich is "only" 25% more than masa without aftermatch
if you keep AM1 it drops to 12.5%, with AMIII 7%
caped DPS:
masa only (without AM, reachable with caped magic gear hasso) 18.12/.2=90.6
DW (need caped magic,gear and something else) 15.84/.2=79.2