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    Player Misi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laraul View Post
    You people make the assumption that people are going to simply leave their token connected all the time. I keep my token on my key chain. And how would this help with the battery life? Why are you worried about the token's battery NOW? What makes you think the battery is getting weak? Have the numbers become very faint to read? These things should last a good five to ten years.

    This device is immune to key loggers. The purpose of a security token is to generate a unique number that can only be used once. The generated number has a lifespan of maybe 20 to 30 minutes. And if you want a new code, wait ten seconds and press the button again. The new code when entered will automatically prevent the any prior code from working.

    As for being a USB device being prone to viruses, well have you ever heard of a keyboard or mouse being "infected" by a key logger?
    And I keep mine near my comp and don't carry it around. Point? If a virus is made particularity for it, all the person who made it has to do is program it to go after drives, keystroke, dl malware,ect. it isn't impossible. and as soon as its recognized as being plugged it its too late. Doesn't matter if its 1 second or 30. Tokens are effective because they arn't "apart" of your computer. If its connected you may as well not have a security device at all.

    I'm fine with the token being the way it is. even with having to replace one after a few years. It is much safer being a "token" then a usb device. I'd think the only realistic concern is waiting for the new token to get here while your battery is dying. i'd imagine you'd have to still use the old one to sign in to even unlink said dying token so you'd have to do it before it did kick the bucket. Then wait weeks/months in some cases for your newly ordered token to arrive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misi View Post
    And I keep mine near my comp and don't carry it around. Point? If a virus is made particularity for it, all the person who made it has to do is program it to go after drives, keystroke, dl malware,ect. it isn't impossible. and as soon as its recognized as being plugged it its too late. Doesn't matter if its 1 second or 30. Tokens are effective because they arn't "apart" of your computer. If its connected you may as well not have a security device at all.

    I'm fine with the token being the way it is. even with having to replace one after a few years. It is much safer being a "token" then a usb device. I'd think the only realistic concern is waiting for the new token to get here while your battery is dying. i'd imagine you'd have to still use the old one to sign in to even unlink said dying token so you'd have to do it before it did kick the bucket. Then wait weeks/months in some cases for your newly ordered token to arrive.
    Thing is they aren't any safer unplugged from the computer than they would be plugged in.

    Do yourself a favor and research what a hacker is capable of doing once they have a program on your computer, it will do much more than the security token ever will for you. Everyone who honestly thinks their account is safer with a token should do this not just you specifically.
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    Last edited by Zagen; 07-10-2011 at 04:03 AM.

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    Player Misi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    Thing is they aren't any safer unplugged from the computer than they would be plugged in.

    Do yourself a favor and research what a hacker is capable of doing once they have a program on your computer, it will do much more than the security token ever will for you. Everyone who honestly thinks their account is safer with a token should do this not just you specifically.
    Not denying that, I agree. Tokens are not infallible like people tend to believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    Do yourself a favor and research what a hacker is capable
    If the NSA really wants your gil, they will get it. That doesn't mean they'll bother.

    It's called "risk analsys." Simply because someone can do something to compromise you doesn't mean they will, especially if the cost and effort to do so outweighs the potential reward. If a hacker can compromise 50% of your user accounts with 5 mintues' work, but it will take 5 hours to get the other 50%, why would he? That's 5 hours he could have spent selling the gil he already has.

    You don't have to outrun the bear, just outrun the guy next to you.
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