AF3 +3

[Zyeriis]

Yes, let's all spend our time typing out the entire names.

The rest of us here on earth can say AF1 (Artifact) AF2 (Relic) and AF3 (Empyrean).

Burden other people because you can't be bothered to blend in

It's hard to use AF, RLC (or REL), and EMP instead right? Oh, my bad, that would make too much sense and a second of thought about how to abbr. things is too hard.

Let's just go with that idiotic and misleading af1 (artifact weapon not artifact set), af2 (level 52 artifact armor piece), and af3 (level 54 artifact armor piece). Those are far less confusing and aren't terminology for completely different things.

Burden other people because you can't be bothered to use correct terminology.

[Malacite]

Actually, I do like the idea of AF branching off into two paths, but they should still be trials. I'll use DRG as an example:


Path 1) Focuses on the DRG itself, improving jump abilities, weaponskills etc and the trials naturally reflect this.
Path 2) Focuses on the Wyvern pet, enhancing breaths, increasing it's HP etc.

I was little disappointed when AF3 came out to see that this wasn't the case. Now, it's harder to do this with some jobs than others but it would have been really cool.

[Covenant]

I'm in agreement with AF1, AF2, and AF3 and so forth. We are discussing tiers of gear set, not each individual pieces and at what specific levels. These are job specific sets given at specific levels at specific endgame. As we all know, most player DON'T use the entire set at a time. Most macro in pieces as needed.

[Kjara]

Another alternative that I like would be if AF+3 seals (or materials, whatever) were dropped in any old content of the game. (Einerjhar, Salvage, Limbus, even Garrison wouldn't be bad, ZNM, and ENNMs or BS/KSNMs, since nobody is doing those anymore.) I'm sure it would bring back a lot of activity in those fields. After so much Abyssea-only stuff, if our final Artifact stage screamed "back to the origins!" I would really love it.

[Tagrineth]

It's hard to use AF, RLC (or REL), and EMP instead right? Oh, my bad, that would make too much sense and a second of thought about how to abbr. things is too hard.

Let's just go with that idiotic and misleading af1 (artifact weapon not artifact set), af2 (level 52 artifact armor piece), and af3 (level 54 artifact armor piece). Those are far less confusing and aren't terminology for completely different things.

Burden other people because you can't be bothered to use correct terminology.

Yeah, AF1/2/3 maybe at one point referred to weapon/1st piece/last piece (lol you don't even know your history, the "AF3 quest" is the last piece of your set), but even with people at the level 75 cap a lot of people referred to relic gear as AF2... because the old designations for the AF1 set had become obsolete.

Terminology for things like this can change over time as certain things become obsolete, this is one example. Nothing is wrong here, except maybe YOU being too stubborn to accept change/advancement.

[Bagel]

You guys are completely missing the main problem here. We have no +3 box color. White > Blue > ???. An impossible conundrum, just stop now.

[Kimble]

+3 is yellow box. We have +3 food and meds.

[Malacite]

Really +3 foods?

I knew about meds but not foods.

[Kimble]

Galkan Sausage +3

[Zyeriis]

Yeah, AF1/2/3 maybe at one point referred to weapon/1st piece/last piece (lol you don't even know your history, the "AF3 quest" is the last piece of your set), but even with people at the level 75 cap a lot of people referred to relic gear as AF2... because the old designations for the AF1 set had become obsolete.

Terminology for things like this can change over time as certain things become obsolete, this is one example. Nothing is wrong here, except maybe YOU being too stubborn to accept change/advancement.

Terminology isn't obsoleted by other completely unrelated terminology (that has absolutely no tie in to the original content). Also, it didn't refer to the quests, as you got 3 pieces from a single quest (AF4, 5, and 6 as the third storyline quest wasn't always the same gear slot or level for that matter). Just because you got it wrong then, and are misusing the terminology now, don't come barking at me about it.

Also, I know people refered to relic as af2, and they were equally idiotic and wrong. Terminology doesnt become obsolete because a bunch of idiots don't know the correct terminology. Only thing wrong here would be people like you who refuse to use the correct terminology for whatever delusional "rebellious" "reason".

"It's easier to say af3!" No, it is not any easier than saying emp, it requires the same amount of key input (3 keys). It's pathetic how people try to defend wrong terminology just to make themselves not sound like morons (its ironic too).

Maybe if it wasn't called empyrean and was called artifact, you (and anyone else who mistakingly calls it af3) would actually have a leg to stand on. But it isn't, so you don't.

/waits for the report button spam.